discussion Churchill 1/35 tamiya

[Robert1968]

Hi chaps


Started this one last night as the wife let me get a kit as it was our anniversary. Well kit looks ok although I believe it's an old kit from what I have been told on here 1977 mould but seems ok. Very little flash if any but a few seam lines to clean up. Not sure how to achieve this yet but I'm told that the Churchill crews tool off the centre mudguard on the tracks ( may be fiddly but if I get the right advice I'll have a go. Think this may be a quick build. I have the metal barrel from my Cromwell and so ordered a second 75mm and I have ordered the pe upgrade set so I'll have to wait fir that to come in post.


I'll upload some pics once I get back to it tonight


I have had a lot of info passed onto me on Churchill in Normandy and so will be setting dio for it around falaise 1944.


All comments welcome


Pics to follow


Robert

 

[Alan 45]

Good choice rob after our conversation yesterday I got mine out for a look and with the figures in this kit you could build a dio out of what's in the box


I'm on the look out for a 17pr gun barrel for mine so I can do the black panther version, there weren't many made and they discontinued them after a while

 

[Robert1968]

Love it 17pdr 1 tiger or Panther 0

 

[Alan 45]

Sorry my mistake it's called the black prince here's a pic View attachment 110846

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[Guest]

Pics we want pics Robert!!

 

[Robert1968]

You will get later this afternoon after work


Patience is a virtue


Nothing virtuous here then


Robert

 

[Robert1968]

Sorry my mistake it's called the black prince here's a pic View attachment 121730now that is some serious armour mayhem

Was the black prince designed to take out concrete emplacements ie mg snd some pill boxes??

 

[eddiesolo]

Sorry my mistake it's called the black prince here's a pic View attachment 121730now that is some serious armour mayhem

The real version was wider and weighed a lot more, the road speed was killed as a result of this added weight, although another engine was considered IIRC. Should be a nice build Al.

 

[eddiesolo]

Love it 17pdr 1 tiger or Panther 0

Nah, the Churchy was hampered by severe under powerment and weight the Tiger would just keep its distance, circle and then pump shot after shot in, eventually the Churchill would be holed or disabled enough.

 

[Robert1968]

Nah, the Churchy was hampered by severe under powerment and weight the Tiger would just keep its distance, circle and then pump shot after shot in, eventually the Churchill would be holed or disabled enough.

It's clear your s tiger lover ( I understand it was a great tank and armed with the 88 it was deadly


Oh talking of tigers the other Davi watched " Kelly's heroes" yes a fictitious story and good caper but was it true that every couple of hours the tiger had to be turned over for 20mins to stop the engine seizing up??


Robert

 

[eddiesolo]

It's clear your s tiger lover ( I understand it was a great tank and armed with the 88 it was deadly
Oh talking of tigers the other Davi watched " Kelly's heroes" yes a fictitious story and good caper but was it true that every couple of hours the tiger had to be turned over for 20mins to stop the engine seizing up??


Robert

I think it just a Icon of WWII, something about it. Although I do like the Churchy, again there is something about it, although it did poorly in certain theatres, it was a rugged machine and could take a pounding. The Maybach engines had to be started every so often in extreme weather, Eastern front etc, as they froze; not heard of them having to warm up every 20 mins in normal conditions, although they probably would have started and let them idle for 20 mins to get warmed up and the water and oil circulating properly before moving out.


Si

 

[Snowman]

Apparently they started a fire under the engine to "defrost" it so that it could be started. Another problem is probably because the German engines were apparently petrol engines whilst the Russians used oil burners (Diesel engines). I'm yakking under correction here...

 

[Robert1968]

I watched a you tube video a while ago I'm not sure it was a tiger but I saw the engineer winding the starter motor up? He had a handle at the back of the engine and was winding up then his pal took over ( it looked very hard wotk ) it was nigbs wind up tank!! Was this due to the battery being flat or was this common practice like winding of some Luftwaffe engines like Me 109??yk heat the plugs of something?


Robert

 

[Guest]

All tigers needed a starting handle to get them going!

 

[Robert1968]

All tigers needed a starting handle to get them going![/quote
I suppose there was no such thing as electronic ignition like on a car. I suppose tech had advanced some heh


Robert

 

[Alan 45]

Was the black prince designed to take out concrete emplacements ie mg snd some pill boxes??

I wouldn't say it was designed for that purpose but it was better at taking out static defences than tanks as it didn't have the manoeuvring capability that most tanks had , a bigger engine might have worked but we did use the Sherman firefly buy then so it's was a bit redundant IMO

 

[Robert1968]

Poor Brits always under the bloody tank might heh, I still believe we were better at tank design than the yanks


Eg they had the Sherman fir sibling and it was noisy and undergumned (to start ) if was thinly armoured etc lit up like s firework when shot at by any enemy but the one thing they had was more of them more fuel on hand and more allied support


We had quite a few good tanks


The Valentine


The crusader


The Cromwell


The Churchill


The Matilda


Yes more development on engines and who knows the difference it would have made.


Robert

 

[Guest]

To do a Black Prince will need more than a 17lber barrel and a Churchill kit.


I`d say that around 90% of it would have to be scratch built as it was a fair bit bigger than a standard Churchill

 

[Robert1968]

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Ok here's the latest pics on the Churchill so far

STarted with the lower hull and think I'm going to try and get a lot of mini builds done on this before I enter the primer stage


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The usual comments are welcome

Robert

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[Robert1968]

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Update for you. Got a few mor things done to the kit last night mainly building small bits.

This morning postie dropped off the Eduard PE set which I think will improve the Churchill.


I have got the 75mm barrel from my Cromwell set to use ( I have ordered another.


Hoping to get into the spraying tomorrow or Thursday


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