discussion "Out of Gas and out of time"

[Robert1968]

Well I took the plunge with my new dio I'm making a start on ( still getting Whippet done/ and remembrance of 1940 ( now 3 projects going woohoo


I took some chance in this new one more over price than anything else. Most advised on the Tamiya Willys but I wanted a trailer and with the Tamiya Willys and a trailer set was a little more, with this in mind I opted for the Italieri Willys and trailer


I have plenty of stores to go in it.


So here's the plan/idea


Tamiya Jagdpanzer IV 70 ( V) Lang ( extras are metal barrel )on a roadside out of petrol in ditch and Willys jeep and trailer full of stores come across this seeing a few POWs who are being escorted back to a camp.


I'm thinking possibly early 1945 ( Feb/ March)


The AFV will have slight snow and on ground ( never done this before.) or the triple camo


POWs from Masterbox


That's what I plan anyway so wish me luck.


I've made a brief start on the Jagdpanzer build / link by link tracks are from Kaison and enjoyed putting them together


Pics


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[Guest]

Looking forward to seeing more of this one Robert. I have a Dragon Jagdpanzer (L/48), so it'll be good to see how the Tamiya one builds up. Does it come with the steel wheels at the front?


I've also got the same German captives figure set already painted - can't think of a setting for them yet.

 

[Guest]

This is going to be interesting.


Scott

 

[Robert1968]

Yes Patrick it does ( have a pic ) also if you wanted to convert your L48 into a L70 I have the plastic one piece barrel. I'm using the Metal barrel shown in picsView attachment 244486



The L48 had the Stug type muzzle which unfortunately after a couple of shots gave the L48 away and I read that the L70 countered this by removing


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[Guest]

Nice start Robert, looking forward to seeing more of your dio mate

 

[Guest]

Yes Patrick it does ( have a pic ) also if you wanted to convert your L48 into a L70 I have the plastic one piece barrel. I'm using the Metal barrel shown in picsView attachment 144278
The L48 had the Stug type muzzle which unfortunately after a couple of shots gave the L48 away and I read that the L70 countered this by removing


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Thanks mate, but the kit I have has 2 MGs at the front so any conversion to an L/70 version would require more effort than I'm willing to do!


I've not heard that the L/48 removed the muzzle break - I thought that was a field conversion done by the Lang crews. Perhaps it was because of the greater muzzle velocity of the larger gun which created more of a dust cloud during firing.

 

[Guest]

Will be following this as well.

 

[Guest]

Interesting project, i'll watching, cheers

 

[monica]

good start so far on this one,Robert

 

[eddiesolo]

Good topic Robert, like what I see.

 

[Guest]

That's interesting, Robert!!


I'm in

 

[Guest]

I love how you guys think up these creative ideas. Looking forward to the progress.

 

[Robert1968]

Does anyone know of a masking company that would help me when it comes to the tri colour camo?


I've seen 1 on evil bay but it's down under and I was hoping to get something nearer so I wouldn't have to pay the £10 plus on packaging?


There is no rush as still in early stages of builds


2nd question does anyone know where I can get schuzen side plate armour from in 1/35 scale for the Tamilya 1/35 Jagdpanzer L70 Lang.


Ref pics show that they carried this even after the Zimmerit phase on these tanks ended so maybe have 1/2 plates on if I can find any. Eduard do plates for the Hetzer but can't find the long plates for my tank.


Could I scratch build them from thin plastic sheet?

 

[Guest]

If it's just a basic 3 colour camo Rob, I'd steer clear of pre-cut masks. Due to the complex shape of tanks I've found they don't fit well & lead to mucho frustration!


There are a number of ways to do it. Use a liquid mask like Maskol - not my favourite, but some people like it.


Mask with white tack sausages & masking tape between the gaps, similar to doing British aircraft camo.


Spray freehand with the paint well thinned to get a very tight edge. Although it's technically not a 'hard edge', it still looks good in scale.


I did my King Tiger that way & although it's 1/72, you can see I still managed quite a tight pattern.


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For the schurzen, I know that Voyager Models do a brass set for the Tamiya kit. I'm not sure who stocks them though. White Ensign used to, but since they ceased trading I'm unaware of who's taken up the distribution.

 

[Robert1968]

Thanks for the tip Patrick ( my compressors finally gone again ) so it's back to the hairy sticks until John gets the new compressors in about 4/5 weeks. I'm going to go for the As189 with tank as my last one never had one ( cheap chinaese £50 but lasted 3/4yrs ) So there's no rush on the painting front yet as my wife says £80 to play with for a compressor so I'm getting a new one.


Love the Tiger and the scale!!! So much detail!!


I have noticed on some AFV with tri camo they have a bold line around the darker camo separating the colours, was this a common place thing ? Or when it comes to spraying, as you have described use the white tack and softly blend the colours in?


Robert

 

[papa 695]

Nice idea for a diorama Robert and a nice start

 

[Guest]

You'll find the addition of a tank will make spraying better Robert. But if you ever see a fridge freezer compressor for sale (or an old one that's been chucked out), get it coz they're much quieter than the piston type.


I don't think the bold line was common - in fact in examples I've seen, I think it's an optical illusion.


Using white tack will give a very very soft edge if the'sausage' is left round. If you flatten it to the models surface, you'll get a hard edge.


Thanks for liking my tiny tiger! That was one that I enjoyed doing


Did you see the base I made for it? If your Jagdpanzer ends up in a snowy setting, it might give you some ideas.


Cheers

 

[Robert1968]

Update on my Willys but I'm at the stage of painting and I'm a little confused on this bloomin love drab, is it right does it look ok or not ( yes it's going to be weathered up but still?


Kit destructions say FS34087 ( olive drab ) I'm using Tamiya paint so this but I can still get another type of need be ( I'm brushing till my new compressor arrives )


Views and opinions welcome


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[Guest]

XF-62 is olive drab Robert, but I don't think you need bother buying it. The olive green looks just as good, especially with a bit of weathering.


Top marks for your brush painting, I can never manage that with Tamiya acrylics!

 

[Robert1968]

Thanks Patrick I do have Xf62 ( don't ask why I chose 58 ) but when painting in thin layers it seemed right then I viewed it in a different room/light and thought that's too green. It's still the internal shell so I can mask up the wheels and put on 62. I'm thinking of putting the windshield down as I have painted up a semi decent M1 Carbine ( goes on the front windshield in holster. I'm going to have to look into some xtradecals for the jeep and trailer as what's in the box is for 1945 ( Japan ) or 1944 101st Airbourne, where I'm looking for units around Germany ( ref, ref, ref, ) love it!!!


Still looking for US troops in Master box too.


Robert