discussion Rusting effect

[Guest]

Hi all,

I was wondering about adding a rust effect to a model.

Id really like to use real rust ground down to a dust type look. I know how to make rust but what I would like to know is how would I stick it to plastic model?? I know I could apply it with a brush I just cant think how to stick it to a model? I feel glue may be too thick?

Cheers

Steve

 

[Guest]

You can buy a rust effect for models.

 

[Guest]

yeah but i really enjoy making the stuff myself - more fun.

Steve

 

[Guest]

Try the boat people. They know how to get the rust effect on boats. It must work for other things as well. I try to avoid rust , it slows you down and makes you squeak.

 

[Guest]

lol

 

[Guest]

Hi all,

Ive been advised to post this here.

I was wondering about adding a rust effect to a model.

Id really like to use real rust ground down to a dust type look. I know how to make rust but what I would like to know is how would I stick it to plastic model?? I know I could apply it with a brush I just cant think how to stick it to a model? I feel glue may be too thick?

Cheers

Steve

 

[Guest]

lol, you can apply it with a paint brush and then use a spray matt/gloss varnish (which ever finish you want) that should fix it in place nicely...just dont get the spray too close as to blow the rust away.

and we all know colin like to keep well lubricated

 

[Guest]

Steve the main thing is !!Scale !! some larger types of craft can benefit from real rust ! smaller scales you will be better off using artists oil pastels and chalks to simulate rust (see my 1/72 u47 in gallery) for the pastel chalk application

 

[Guest]

As Nigel says rust is very much dependant upon a lot of things such as the model you are making, scale etc..

I have always been a great fan of dry brushing but I have also used airbrush and pastels for creating the effect.

I have seen one or two models with real rust used for weathering and I have to say I don’t think it works very well. The main difference being that rust is actually multicoloured when you study it so applying a powder of real rust does not tend to show this. I have studied a lot of rusted surfaces over the years and have actually taken pictures of various rusted items on ships, much to other crewmembers amusement, and I am convinced that using two or three colours is a more effective way of achieving a realistic effect.

As with so many things in modeling try experiments with various finishes and see which you prefer. I have attached a picture of a destroyer in 1/96th scale which was a mixture of three different Tamiya colours , purple, brown and bright orange which although I admit looks too much for this model, I will be using the same technique for my steam coaster model in 1/35th scale.

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[Guest]

Hi Richard,

Thats the effect id like to be able to use, the bit around the anchor.

Just so you know i think it looks good, not too much for the model

Steve

 

[Guest]

Thanks Steve,

To get that effect I put a blob of each of the three paints on a pallette (lump of wood, saucer, next doors cat, anything I can find really) and take a bit of one of the colours and dry the brush out quite a bit. Then I drag it down the item in the direction the water would flow off the item.

Do a couple of strokes with a second differrent colour over the top then a few with the last one, then go back. The idea is not to mix the colours but to see each individual one plus all the shades of inbetween. Practise on whatever you can find until you are happy to have a go at the model. I actually have rather a lot of rust coloured bits of wood in my garage!

 

[Guest]

so what are the main areas on a boat/ship that rust the most/quickest richard?

for examply, my musashi, she only lived 5 years, would she have showed much signes of rusting in that time?

 

[Guest]

Richard, I would suggest that that type of ship at that age and more importantly at that scale would show very little signs of rusting.

Warships are generally very well kept as there is an abundance of manpower on them so maintenance is usually well up to scratch. On your model I would not try to show any rust as the effect would almost certainly end up looking unrealistic and out of scale. Even things that would rust in service such as anchor cables, anchors and hawse pipes would be very quickly cleaned and painted so I would not suggest that you show them as rusted.

I put some rust on my destroyer as she was involved in a very lengthy North Atlantic campaign when maintenance would be very difficult if not impossible for some time and at 1/96th scale anything like that would be more visible.

 

[Guest]

I agree with Bunk and do much the same using acrylic paint. I have a ready mixed bottle of rust paint that is a made up from some primary colours to what I think looks rust like. I also dry brush inline with water flow after dabbing bits on places like hand rail bases etc, where rust would be. I then spray matt clear enamel over it to seal it. My u-boat has a fair bit as they did in most photos as the refits were very brief and rare due to heavy workload and short life expectancy I guess.

Here's a sample pic showing my efforts.

Jason

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