discussion Sd kfz 234/2 Puma

[Guest]

Hello fellow tankers! I've just joined, having not built for years! I have started modifying a 1/35 Italeri Puma for my first diorama/scratch build.


Thing is, I want the Puma to be 'mid-turn', and the wheels are static 'dead-ahead' in the kit. I have modded the hubs to set the rear wheels at a turn.


I've seen some photos online which show a relationship between the last and second-to-last wheels similar to this:


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The last wheel seems to be at a more acute angle than the next, But how did the Puma steering work? ie, what angle would the matching pair of wheels be to the body? The same as those I've already set? Or different?


Wordy first post - sorry!

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[Guest]

Hi, can't see the picture but welcome to the forum, hopefully someone can help with what you are looking for. This is an excellent friendly forum and is well worth sticking with!

 

[takeslousyphotos]

I think the geometry of the steering is about right........When you have double axle steering the forward wheel is going to turn mare acutely and travel further....... Hope that helps.


There is probably a mathematical formula that someone far cleverer than me can work out the angles and travel......

 

[Guest]

That's great, Mr Lousyphotos Do you think the wheels on the other side would be similar to this side? I know steering geometry is a tricksy beast, and it doesn't have to be perfect - but I just want the vehicle to look 'right'

 

[takeslousyphotos]

I would say the angle on both sides should be the same any difference in traction or slip would be compensated by the diff in the transmission.

 

[Guest]

Cool, thanks for your help

 

[grumpa]

Very nice kit, wheel angle adds a bit of drama, am watching...........Jim

 

[Guest]

Well, I finished off adapting the steering angle on the other side:


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And added the wheels to check that it looked okay


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[Guest]

If the wheels look a bit iffy, it's because they aren't actually glued yet!


I had planned to wreck the Puma, so a couple of them were going to be flat, but now I'm not sure whether to or not

 

[Guest]

This turns out to be a nice kit, and yours is looking good so far.


Scott

 

[Guest]

Welcome to the forum Kris I like he turning wheels idea I shall be following this one.

 

[papa 695]

Hi and welcome to the forum Kris


A great start looking forward to more updates

 

[geegad]

LooKing real good like where you at so far...do like the look of these viehcles

 

[takeslousyphotos]

Nah........Don`t trash it....... Looks too good......... A bit of weathering and general `squaddie` type wear and tear maybe

 

[Guest]

Thanks for the kind comments, peeps.. so, any suggestions for a setting?


So far, I was thinking an Eastern front setting, with some mud and water and gunk, the kind that really did for Barbarossa!


In turning the rear wheels, I guess I could have a parked up recce position? Or possibly a rear-facing turret defensive position?

 

[Alan 45]

Good start


This model looks good in a winter camo

 

[grumpa]

If the wheels look a bit iffy, it's because they aren't actually glued yet!
I had planned to wreck the Puma, so a couple of them were going to be flat, but now I'm not sure whether to or not

Don't you DARE!

 

[Guest]

Good start
This model looks good in a winter camo

Cheers Alan. I've never done a winter camo, water or mud before, so I'll be in at the deep end!

 

[Guest]

Don't you DARE!

Okay, just so we're clear here, Grumpa, that's a 'no' on the wrecked look, is it?

 

[Alan 45]

Cheers Alan. I've never done a winter camo, water or mud before, so I'll be in at the deep end!

Winter camo is quite easy , just paint the model in the colour it should be then give it a week coat of white but not a wash so you can faintly see the paint underneath then use a dry brush of white in some areas so it look patchy


This is one I did and it was only my second attempt


http://www.scale-models.co.uk/threads/out-of-fuel-and-out-of-ammo-the-ardennes-1945.31813/