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  • Gern
    • May 2009
    • 9255

    #16
    Originally posted by BarryW
    A bit more progress on the cockpit. It is slow going with lots of small parts including p.e. I really dont like it when companies provide impossibly small p.e. and expect you to glue end on as a lever. Ridiculous. Never succeeded in that, ever. On this kit I found a way to represent the levers with the p.e. It is not as Kitty Hawk intended but I got it done and has more chance of staying attached this way.

    Here is how the pit floor looks now.
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    Any chance you could share your 'how to' method of fixing those tiny PE parts Barry?

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    • BarryW
      SMF Supporters
      • Jul 2011
      • 6032

      #17
      Originally posted by Gern
      Any chance you could share your 'how to' method of fixing those tiny PE parts Barry?
      Ther is no real secret Gern. There p.e. had to marks where they were meant to be bent. I assume( instructions vague to this...) that they were meant to be angled out, with two pieces glued in representing two levers. there was no hope doing this so I bent them to a full U shape (straight bottm and glued the bottom into the slot which gave me something of a surface to bond. That is all - I also only needed to use two of the four pieces of p.e. so I had spares in case of the carpet monster striking, it did!!!

      OK, a purist would not like it but, hey, I have some leavers, four in all represented on the model and if I tried to do it the way they wanted there would not be any at all....

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      • rtfoe
        • Apr 2018
        • 9114

        #18
        Originally posted by BarryW
        Ther is no real secret Gern. There p.e. had to marks where they were meant to be bent. I assume( instructions vague to this...) that they were meant to be angled out, with two pieces glued in representing two levers. there was no hope doing this so I bent them to a full U shape (straight bottm and glued the bottom into the slot which gave me something of a surface to bond. That is all - I also only needed to use two of the four pieces of p.e. so I had spares in case of the carpet monster striking, it did!!!

        OK, a purist would not like it but, hey, I have some leavers, four in all represented on the model and if I tried to do it the way they wanted there would not be any at all....
        Barry, we improvise as we go along as long as it looks good enough. :thumb2: :smiling2:

        Cheers,
        Richard

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        • stillp
          • Nov 2016
          • 8105
          • Pete
          • Rugby

          #19
          Good plan Barry. Last time I had some PE throttle levers to fix I poked the throttle quadrant with the tip of a heated scalpel blade to make a small slot for the end of the lever shaft to fit into, then CA'd them in. Next day I broke them off while fitting the IP.:disappointed:

          Pete

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          • BarryW
            SMF Supporters
            • Jul 2011
            • 6032

            #20
            Originally posted by stillp
            Good plan Barry. Last time I had some PE throttle levers to fix I poked the throttle quadrant with the tip of a heated scalpel blade to make a small slot for the end of the lever shaft to fit into, then CA'd them in. Next day I broke them off while fitting the IP.:disappointed:

            Pete
            I feel the pain.

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            • BarryW
              SMF Supporters
              • Jul 2011
              • 6032

              #21
              it looks to me as if Kitty Hawk is run by an accountant. He has his spreadsheet having set aside a project cost and implementation period and once the budget is spent orders the kit into production regardless.

              Look at this
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              See the location pins on one half, see the holes they should fit into...... no! Well according to the instructions they are there.

              I have found several examples of this kInd of thing.

              Gluing these together is not a problem but....
              The result is this.
              [ATTACH]347443[/ATTACH]
              I will cement some sprue inside to give this some strength.

              [ATTACH]347445[/ATTACH]
              The part identification continues to provide additional entertainment.

              Her is where I am at with subs done last night.
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              Attached Files

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              • Vaughan
                • Apr 2011
                • 3175

                #22
                Barry you do like a challenge, I'm sure you'll sort all these problems out in your stride. Do you think this will put you off building another Kitty Hawk in the future?

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                • BarryW
                  SMF Supporters
                  • Jul 2011
                  • 6032

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Vaughan
                  Barry you do like a challenge, I'm sure you'll sort all these problems out in your stride. Do you think this will put you building another Kitty Hawk in the future?
                  Actually none of this is really major and I am more amused by it than anything. No, I am not put off at all.

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                  • Guest

                    #24
                    To be honest, if this sort of thing were off-putting to someone, maybe modelling isn’t the right hobby for that person. It comes across more as sloppy than actually bad. Now if the parts fit was terrible and the model only looked like an OV-10 if it had the sun behind it, that would be different.

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                    • BarryW
                      SMF Supporters
                      • Jul 2011
                      • 6032

                      #25
                      The one thing that is really annoying are the sloppily positioned ejector pin marks. Some are right in amongst detail and I have to assess just how visible it will be before deciding on how or whether to deal with them.

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                      • Guest

                        #26
                        Barry .
                        Reading what Jakko has just said make me think I should do something else :smiling2:, that kit would drive me madder than I already am.
                        I find it so annoying that manufactures dont proof read their instructions, there is nothing more off putting than lack of forethought for the person who has bought your kit and then gives up.
                        Yes a challenge to build it by all means but not one to understand instructions because they can't be bothered to correct.
                        No doubt you will make a great job of it. I Shall follow from the back.

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                        • BarryW
                          SMF Supporters
                          • Jul 2011
                          • 6032

                          #27
                          I used some sprue to add strength to the centre wing panel.
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                          And - I unpacked my new toy....

                          For a long time I have been using a nail varnish shaker (c. £30, Amazon) to mix my paint but it finally expired under the strain of MRP's 30ml glass bottles. So I decided to look for alternatives and found this on Amazon:
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                          OK, I could buy 4 nail varnish shakers for what this cost, but at least it does not have a pink badge and my missus cannot pull my plonker over using a nail varnish shaker.... It is also much more robust, does the job quicker and is more versatile. I tried not just the 30ml MRP but also the 60ml primer and Vallejo paint on it and it works beautifully. OK, I cannot just strap a bottle in, switch on and get on with something else while it is shaking but it does mix the paint a lot quicker. This model has a variable speed of up to 3000 rpm which is necessary as the steel aggitators in MRP may otherwise crack the glass bottle. I also learned to hold the bottle loosely as that really helps to improve the shaking motion. A luxury perhaps when a nail varnish sharker would do but I like it....

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                          • Vaughan
                            • Apr 2011
                            • 3175

                            #28
                            Looks like an amazing piece of kit Barry but just looked it up on Amazon and at a £116 that's a few model kits for me. I think I will stick to shaking them by hand.

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                            • BarryW
                              SMF Supporters
                              • Jul 2011
                              • 6032

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Vaughan
                              Looks like an amazing piece of kit Barry but just looked it up on Amazon and at a £116 that's a few model kits for me. I think I will stick to shaking them by hand.
                              You could try the nail polish shaker as that is only about £22 (not the 30 I said....). and it does save a lot of time. Mine actually lasted a few years. Vallejo fits perfectly under the strap though ‘fatter bottles’ stretch it a bit. . If you don’t want the pink label then there is one, same except the label, for £52 !!!!!!!

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                              • stillp
                                • Nov 2016
                                • 8105
                                • Pete
                                • Rugby

                                #30
                                I paid £12.95 for my nail polish shaker, including postage from China. I think the wait was about 3 weeks. My wife uses it occasionally for its intended purpose!
                                Pete

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