Heinkel He 219 A-7 UHU

[Ian M]

Sorry just found this one too! SVSM Gallery :: Heinkel He 219 Uhu Fuselage, NASM Udvar-Hazy Center, by John Heck loads of photos!!

Well 12, but they are all in colour!

Ian M

[stona]

Wow! Restorations. What's with those colours,I can't believe they've been matched to the original colours (RLM75 and 76). I've made the effort to seek out original artefacts around the world on my travels and have never seen that much variation from the standards on any of them! Also a look at any of the B+W photos of that reversed mottle scheme shows the lighter colour (if it was indeed applied second) was far more loosely applied.

This after they uncovered original paint,it does my head in!

Cheers

Steve

[Guest]

The damn restorations, dont know where they get their colours from, at work give us a piece of paint chip, we stick it on a spectrometer, and can get 90-95 % accuracy of a colour match, so why cant these guys do the same.

[Guest]

Obviously Blu Tack is a UK brand name, (at least it's one that won't inherit a bloody stupid name from it's US counterpart, i'm thinking specifically of Snickers, which was Marathon in the UK, not that Marathon makes sense but Snickers just doesn't work in the UK, still doesn't sound right to this day)

Anyhow, veering off the point a wee bit.

Blu-Tack - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Have a butchers at the above Wiki page, theres a list of US, Canadian, etc etc variants, Apparently an orange one by Elmers, (which is a name i've heard lots, Elmers glue e.g. by US modellers)

[Guest]

thanks for all the helpful info and kind words Richard and Paul,the antanae base is the body color rlm 76 Steve. Ian unfortunately the musuem is a 20 hour drive north.Mike thanks for the link on the blu tach.Ray I paint as well and these restorers could'nt match a pair of socks,most likely they do'nt have a spectrum analyzer could'nt say why a restore facility would'nt though.

Trey

[Guest]

Im sure you will do a better paint job Trey than the restorers,looking forward to the next part of this build....

[stona]

Right then,time for some contemporary evidence,all B+W and all from my hard drive.

Firstly all the images I have found of this type with a black lower surface feature the reversed pattern of an RLM75 base colour with lines of RLM76 oversprayed,that much the restoration has correct. I have no idea if this was always the case.

For you expert sprayers,I doubt that this would pass muster.

The aircraft without a black lower surface are in the more common scheme of overall RLM76 with mottling or streaking in RLM75. This matches the Heinkel factory scheme approved by the RLM.This scheme was common to many nightfighters and features in most profiles of the He219.

Here's an example. Notice how diffuse the oversprayed colour is.

Finally a model for the 76 over 75 over black scheme by Osvaldo Viggiani,nice job,but he is wrong to say "It is irrefutable that almost the all late period Luftwaffe night fighters such as the He 219, Ju 88, Bf 110 and Me 262 B1 u1 were painted using a reverse pattern camouflage of 76 Light Blue over solid 75Grey Violet, on squiggle, net, irregular blotches and cross hatched style."

As far as I can establish (nightfighters are not my main interest) the black bottoms were fairly short lived and given the orders for amounts of different colours to be applied,by weight,an overall base of RLM76 was required. Logically overspraying a lot of RLM76 (see the pictures) over a base of RLM75 is a waste of paint,something the Germans were hardly in a position to do.

I hope this has spread more light than heat,back to Trey's excellent model now

Cheers

Steve

[Guest]

Damn fine interesting reading there Steve, bookmarked for future use.

[Guest]

thanks Ray I'll try to do it justice ,wow Steve great research thanks ! I've decided against the black bottom and shot the rlm 76 today great timing as my new airbrush arrived today.I used modelmaster thinned 50/50 with mineral spirits

flowed out pretty nice the new airbrush is working up to par I think

detailed the landing gear a bit and gave them a wash(thanks for the tip Graham)

and since the cowlings stay solid rlm76 went ahead and gave them a wash as well

and the exhaust suppressors are ready for mounting

I'm going to try and start the dreaded mottle this weekend time between the chores and side job allowing

[Guest]

Lovely wash in the panel lines and a great example in the last picture of how wash can be equally effective on raised detail as much as scribed detail.

[Guest]

Looking the the business Trey, great wash.

[stona]

What Richard and Ray said^^^^^^^

I guess you'll be doing this type of thing.

I've seen your work,you don't need to be worrying about mottling! It just needs decent control of the airbrush.

Cheers

Steve

[Guest]

thanks Richard ,Ray and Steve thanks for the profile shots most helpful.I did'nt realize how many variations were on these ,really kinda blows my mind with the limited number that actually saw service. I'm going with 3./NJG3 thanks again

Trey

[Guest]

finally finished ! Thanks to all for the compliments and support info, you are a great bunch and a big reason I was able to pull this off. I've not built a warbird in so long it was quite a challenge but very fun ,so much so I'm starting another!The kit was up to the usual Tamiya standards and went together very nicely no hitches to report.The decals went down nicely and were'nt as thick as some Tamiya are. I used model master paints for the main colors and finished it with testors dullcoat. Hope you all enjoyed the build as much as I did thanks again

VAE VICTUS!

Trey

[Guest]

Stunning 5 Stars. Superb.

Tony..