My first kit: Italeri UH-1D Iroquois - 1:48

[Guest]

The rear walls are covered in a cloth material (that’s why it has the diagonal lines in it), while the floor is metal. The colour of the cloth isn’t the same on all UH-1s, though:

Interior of a Bell UH-1H Iroquois (Huey) Helicopter used extensively in the Vietnam War by Mary Harrsch, on Flickr

Bell UH-1D (65-10077) Cabin by Daniel Berek, on Flickr

Bell UH-1H Iroquois (68-16623) Main Cabin by Daniel Berek, on Flickr

[Mark1]

Off to a good start :thumb2:

[Dozent]

The rear walls are covered in a cloth material (that’s why it has the diagonal lines in it), while the floor is metal. The colour of the cloth isn’t the same on all UH-1s, though:

Interior of a Bell UH-1H Iroquois (Huey) Helicopter used extensively in the Vietnam War by Mary Harrsch, on Flickr

Bell UH-1D (65-10077) Cabin by Daniel Berek, on Flickr

Bell UH-1H Iroquois (68-16623) Main Cabin by Daniel Berek, on Flickr

Wow amazing informations! thank you so much. In your opinion what's the best option?

Off to a good start :thumb2:

Thanks Mark! This means a lot.

Now I was thinking, it looks pretty "clean" I'd like to add some rust or dirty on it. How should I move with this?

M.

[Mark1]

I would paint the panels you want to weather with an acrylic gloss laquer and use an oil wash. Then re laquer with matt or satin finish.You could buy an acrylic wash and apply straight over the paint without gloss laquering, if you apply anything solvent based over solvent based paint it could cause issues with melting the base colour. Generally you would use acrylic on top of solvent based paints or solvent over acrylics. As for rust im not sure how much steel you would find in a heli, i would guess more aluminium which wouldnt rust ,probably a bit of research needed there.

[Guest]

In your opinion what's the best option?

I would keep it as you painted it: grey floor with olive rear wall.

Now I was thinking, it looks pretty "clean" I'd like to add some rust or dirty on it. How should I move with this?

Keep it simple: this is your first model, and for now it’s probably better to actually paint and finish it instead of getting bogged down in all kinds of technical stuff That said, dirt on the floor is simple enough: take a somewhat large brush (say, about 3 or 4 mm diameter), dip it into some earth-coloured paint, and then wipe of the paint on a piece of cloth or paper from a kitchen roll. Then lightly go over the floor of the model with this, so that the paint will catch on the higher parts of the floor without actually covering well. This is known as drybrushing because you’re painting with a brush that is (almost) dry. It takes a little practice, but it’s a very useful technique to master.

As for rust: helicopters like this are made almost completely of aluminium — they don’t rust (OK, OK, technically all bare aluminium you will ever see is covered in oxide, but it’s not the kind of people think of when they talk about rust )

[Waspie]

I would keep it as you painted it: grey floor with olive rear wall.


Keep it simple: this is your first model, and for now it’s probably better to actually paint and finish it instead of getting bogged down in all kinds of technical stuff :smiling3: That said, dirt on the floor is simple enough: take a somewhat large brush (say, about 3 or 4 mm diameter), dip it into some earth-coloured paint, and then wipe of the paint on a piece of cloth or paper from a kitchen roll. Then lightly go over the floor of the model with this, so that the paint will catch on the higher parts of the floor without actually covering well. This is known as drybrushing because you’re painting with a brush that is (almost) dry. It takes a little practice, but it’s a very useful technique to master.

As for rust: helicopters like this are made almost completely of aluminium — they don’t rust :smiling3: (OK, OK, technically all bare aluminium you will ever see is covered in oxide, but it’s not the kind of people think of when they talk about rust :smiling3: )

Oh but they do Jacko!!!!! Helicopters are a mix of Aluminium alloy and Magnesium alloys. As such suffer from dissimilar metal corrosion. Even something like a FMJ can kick off corrosion. (rust). Aluminium is coated in 'Alacrome' to help prevent rust, but the slightest scratch can induce it. Magnesium is coated but I forget the treatment. These lighter alloys really suffer near salt water.

[rickoshea52]

Helicopters and just about every aircraft are made of aluminium, light alloy or composite material and as Jakko says, no rust. Aluminium does oxidize (corrode) and is evident by white powdery deposits.
Steel parts on aircraft have their uses, nuts, bolts as well as landing gear structural parts, engines and gearboxes. These are usually protected by sacrificial or hard wearing layers of plated metal like cadmium, zinc nickel, chrome or HVOF and paint.
Corrosion is also dependent on the environment or operating conditions, not to mention maintenance and corrosion protection measures.
A helicopter operating from a dusty desert is less likely to see corrosion than one operating from a carrier deck. I have inspected landing gears on aircraft that operate in Scandinavia that operate close to the sea off runways treated with de-icer that can have severe corrosion while the same landing gear operating in Egypt are corrosion free.
For me - no rust on aircraft. Dirt, dust, grease, oil, rain/water streaking is much more realistic.

[Guest]

Oh but they do Jacko!!!!! Helicopters are a mix of Aluminium alloy and Magnesium alloys. As such suffer from dissimilar metal corrosion.

True, of course, but what I meant was that you’re not going to have much orange-brown rust on most helicopters, as you would get if they were made of steel.

For me - no rust on aircraft. Dirt, dust, grease, oil, rain/water streaking is much more realistic.

The same goes for armoured vehicles, really. Painting rust streaks on them has been popular for a long time, but IRL they don’t normally have much, or even any, rust at all. In peacetime armies they will get enough maintenance that rust is unlikely, while in wartime (especially the Second World War) many vehicles won’t be old enough to have even begun to rust — especially the late-war German tanks that people really like to love painting rust on. And this is without even mentioning things like M113s that are almost entirely made from aluminium too

[minitnkr]

Usually no rust w/o fire or very high heat, which burns off the paint allowing ferrous metal to oxidize. Ocean going is another story w/salt being tough on any finish.

[Dozent]

Great, thank you everyone for your help. I've decided to skip that part for now and continue as if it's seamlessly integrated. Haha, it's like it magically appeared! Anyway, I believe I've completed the interior. I admit, assembling the seating was a bit challenging for me, but I managed to get it done

P.S Pictures made the seats look painted a bit weird but I ensure it's something wrong with lighiting today. Later I will post better pics.

[Waspie]

Usually no rust w/o fire or very high heat, which burns off the paint allowing ferrous metal to oxidize. Ocean going is another story w/salt being tough on any finish.

As most of my life has been spent either on the sea or living right by it - rust/corrosion has featured quite high up there.
Naval aircraft do suffer terribly from salt water corrosion. So much so nearly every naval air squadron has a dedicated anti-corrosion team. Life on board a war canoe always has an element of ships husbandry. A nice little euphemism for chipping off paint, treat rust and repaint.
Early on in my naval life we spent some time in company with the USS Guarda Canal an amphibious assault vessel. Seemed to have had two of everything on board. 2 Jolly Greens, 2 x Cobra's, 2 x Sea Knights and yup, 2 x Huey's!!! They spent a lot of time on our ship and yes it did have some corrosion - on par with our Wessex V's. (But not as much as my VW Beetle.)

[Waspie]

Great, thank you everyone for your help. I've decided to skip that part for now and continue as if it's seamlessly integrated. Haha, it's like it magically appeared! Anyway, I believe I've completed the interior. I admit, assembling the seating was a bit challenging for me, but I managed to get it done

P.S Pictures made the seats look painted a bit weird but I ensure it's something wrong with lighiting today. Later I will post better pics.

Looking good there Matteo. You're doing the Huey justice indeed.

[Dozent]

Looking good there Matteo. You're doing the Huey justice indeed.

Thank you Doug!

[Steve-the-Duck]

The same goes for armoured vehicles, really. Painting rust streaks on them has been popular for a long time, but IRL they don’t normally have much, or even any, rust at all. In peacetime armies they will get enough maintenance that rust is unlikely, while in wartime (especially the Second World War) many vehicles won’t be old enough to have even begun to rust — especially the late-war German tanks that people really like to love painting rust on. And this is without even mentioning things like M113s that are almost entirely made from aluminium too :smiling3:

FINALLY, someone has said it! Rust on tank models is just a fashion

P.S Pictures made the seats look painted a bit weird but I ensure it's something wrong with lighiting today. Later I will post better pics.

For a first timer, you're doing a damn good job so far! Pics are fine (says the man who's pictures keep auto-correcting out of focus!)

[Jim R]

All looking good Matteo. Very neatly painted and put together. As Jakko said earlier don't get too bogged down with colours and weathering. That can come later. Carry on as you are doing and you'll end up with a model to be proud of and you'll have fun making it.