Which was really better, The Mosquito or the Me 410?

[Ian M]

wasn't the 410 Germany's attempt to make their own Moskito?
It was not only unpopular but not half as versatile as the real Mosquito which was not only a beauty to behold but a true multi role aircraft.

[Guest]

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I for one don’t find the Mosquito a particularly attractive (or unattractive) aircraft, and would probably pick the Me 210/410 over it in a “prettiest aircraft” vote (and put both of them after plenty of others). I’m sure a lot of people will disagree, though.

[Dave Ward]

The real answer to the Mosquito from the Luftwaffe was the Focke-Wulf Ta-154, it also had wooden construction, but was not brilliant - due to Allied bombing, the original glue factory was destroyed, and the substitute wasn't good enough, causing mid-air failures. ( as with the He-162 ) - hardly conducive to pilot confidence!

It was also named 'Moskito'.................................
Dave

[Tim Marlow]

Beat me to it Dave It‘s adoption was also hamstrung by the usual German infighting over designs.....

[boatman]

HI Jakko cheers for postin that pic as ive never heard of this plane or come to that the ME 210 a pic of that please an must say I do disagree with you on the mossie but just my opion an Could be a case similar to the F4U Corsair, which the Americans considered too dangerous to operate off aircraft carriers while the British happily (? did just that an was it winkle brown who landed a corsair on a carrier for the first time ?
chris

[Guest]

cheers for postin that pic as ive never heard of this plane or come to that the ME 210 a pic of that please

The two are very hard to tell apart, as you can see from the drawing I also posted above. It’s mainly in the angles in the wings, and also different engines, a greater wingspan and longer fuselage in the 410, but none of these are obvious in many photos as far as I know (though I’m far from an expert). There’s good reading about these kinds of planes on Wikipedia, though. Start here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Messerschmitt_Me_210

and you can click on links to other pages that might interest you. Chances are you’ll be reading for quite a while

was it winkle brown who landed a corsair on a carrier for the first time ?

No idea All I know is that the Americans felt it was unsafe to land a Corsair on a carrier and so let the USMC only operate them from land bases, but different practices in the FAA meant they could land them with little more risk than other planes. When this trickled back to the USA, they changed their procedures and also began flying them off carriers once more.

the usual German infighting over designs.....

Normal state of affairs in Nazi Germany, at all levels and quietly encouraged, usually, by the people immediately above the different sides.

[boatman]

The two are very hard to tell apart, as you can see from the drawing I also posted above. It’s mainly in the angles in the wings, and also different engines, a greater wingspan and longer fuselage in the 410, but none of these are obvious in many photos as far as I know (though I’m far from an expert). There’s good reading about these kinds of planes on Wikipedia, though. Start here:

https:tongue-out3:/en.wikipedia.org/...schmitt_Me_210

and you can click on links to other pages that might interest you. Chances are you’ll be reading for quite a while :smiling3:


No idea :smiling3: All I know is that the Americans felt it was unsafe to land a Corsair on a carrier and so let the USMC only operate them from land bases, but different practices in the FAA meant they could land them with little more risk than other planes. When this trickled back to the USA, they changed their procedures and also began flying them off carriers once more.


Normal state of affairs in Nazi Germany, at all levels and quietly encouraged, usually, by the people immediately above the different sides.

Cheers Jakko ive learnt something today
chris

[tr1ckey66]

One thing not mentioned in this thread is that the skilled workforce required to build such aircraft was decimated in Germany in the latter stages of the war. De Havilland had been making wooden-framed aircraft such as the Mossie for decades and already had the expertise and production methods ready.
But lets face it, the Germans had other groundbreaking aircraft in production too. So... do you go with the copy of an Allied wooden design or jet-powered wonder weapon? Either way Germany’s infrastructure had been so badly damaged at this point that neither would effect the outcome of the war.
As to which is better, Mosquito or Me 410? I’d say the performance of both aircraft is comparable. The real difference (I think) is that the Allies were able to both build and fuel the Mosquito whilst, in the latter stages of the war, the Germans couldn’t do the same with the Me 410
Cheers
Paul