Going big

[flyjoe180]

Hi Theuns, I built all the Airfix 1/24 kits many moons ago and in my opinion the Ju 87 was the best of the lot.If there is a temperate option in the box and the colour call still shows a one colour green upper surface it's wrong !

Cheers

Steve

The 1/72 Airfix B-2 Stuka had this same error. The new tool version has details for the splinter scheme for the very same aircraft depicted in the old kit set.

As an aside and apologies for detracting temporarily from the original thread Theuns, but does anyone know if the Italian B-2/R-2 models had splinter or overall green schemes? I think they were splinter schemes as they may have been former Luftwaffe machines.

[stona]

does anyone know if the Italian B-2/R-2 models had splinter or overall green schemes? I think they were splinter schemes as they may have been former Luftwaffe machines.

That, Sir, is a very good question. I might have something on that.....somewhere . My gut reaction (or guess) would be the same as yours. The problem is exacerbated by just how hard it is to see the two colours in many B+W photos. I'm sure that is why Airfix, all those years ago, gave us the monotone scheme.

I also remember the debate raging a few years ago about the colour, or colours, applied to the Bf 109s built for export.

Cheers

Steve

[stona]

Joe, I'll PM you to avoid derailing Theuns' thread any further

Steve

[Guest]

No,please do continue ! I think we can all learn from this, besides it is not "my" tread, we all contribute ;-)

Theuns

[Guest]

BTW, what is up with all the sheep?!

[ojays]

BTW, what is up with all the sheep?!

'Camoflage'

[stona]

BTW, what is up with all the sheep?!

Nature's lawn mowers. Perfect for keeping the grass short on your airfield !

No,please do continue ! I think we can all learn from this, besides it is not "my" tread, we all contribute ;-)Theuns

Well, essentially in 1940/41 the Italians got a bunch of second hand B-2s and R-2s from the Germans. There were two orders, the first for 50 Ju 87s around June 1940 (not completed until July 1941), the second in February 1941 for another 50 (not completed until October 1942).

They asked for 50 Ds to replace these old aircraft, which were clapped out or lost, two years later (October 1942 I think, on completion of the previous order). Between 5th September 1940 and 19th October 1942 the Italian Ju 87s had sustained 61 combat losses.

This time they got 17 second hand or surplus aircraft from Luftflotte 2, 29 newly built aircraft and 9 from various other sources.

The new builds were pulled from current production so it is reasonable to assume that all the aircraft received by the Italians would have had a standard splinter scheme when delivered. It seems unlikely that a special exception would be made for just 29 aircraft. What happened subsequently is another question.

Cheers

Steve

[Guest]

Steve, can I build an Italian plane with my kit? Might be an interesting idea, if I can get decals somewhere.

Theuns

[Guest]

Hi Lindsey, I sent you a PM mate, check it out.

Theuns

[stona]

Steve, can I build an Italian plane with my kit? Might be an interesting idea, if I can get decals somewhere.Theuns

I've seen 'modifications' mentioned for the Italian aircraft but I don't know what was done. In photographs and profiles the Italian Ju 87s look externally just like their German counterparts, except for their markings obviously.

I can tell you some of the Italian units which used the Ju 87 but I don't really know anything about them. I don't know much about Italian aircraft and units at all

Cheers

Steve

[yak face]

BTW, what is up with all the sheep?!

Theuns the photo shows french resistance sheep , attacking a german stuka , and forcing it to submit by tickling its feet , if you look you can see him smiling

[Guest]

Ah yes. the oldest trick in the French resistans's book!

Theuns