Now Mr Race, Herr Doctor StuG recommends a healthy drink of 4BO, not diluted mind, then a good bedtime book on trees of the world by a C hain Saw!
							
						
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Thanks Mark.
Ah yes the magic potion, yes that a good book,:smiling5::smiling5::smiling5::smiling5:.Comment
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Greetings for a somewhat damp Race Towers, out side I hasten to add.:smiling3:
Had to throw the pine trees away, just shows that putting the ferns in glycerine only for a few days doesn't work. Interesting as the stems are so small you would think the uptake of the glycerine would be quite quick. Before I have waited at least a week or more , removed, washed and pressed under weights, this time thinking as they were so thin it might be quicker to do a couple of days. No doesn't work.
Un phased by such things I'm going to carry on with the Scots Pine trees only, at least these will be more in keeping for Finland.
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Sorry to hear about the pines I was going to say I used PVA any blobs will disappear as it dries clear. Glad to know the mojo is back.Comment
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Sounds a good idea Paul, Jim had suggested that as well. I will have a go with the pva next time. Yes feeling more like modelling, strange how it suddenly disappears and returns.
Think it was me rushing the treatment Neil, I don't know how long Paul leaves his fern in the mix but this time I tried to lessen the time down to 3 days. Normally I would leave them for at least a week.
The other thing is I don't know if the glycerine mix becomes weaker as it ages. I try to save mine and reuse it, may be part of the reason. Hopefully someone my know. Tim are you reading this !Comment
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Thanks John but I still don't understand what happened. Did they rot, discolour, fall apart? All of the above?Sounds a good idea Paul, Jim had suggested that as well. I will have a go with the pva next time. Yes feeling more like modelling, strange how it suddenly disappears and returns.
Think it was me rushing the treatment Neil, I don't know how long Paul leaves his fern in the mix but this time I tried to lessen the time down to 3 days. Normally I would leave them for at least a week.
The other thing is I don't know if the glycerine mix becomes weaker as it ages. I try to save mine and reuse it, may be part of the reason. Hopefully someone my know. Tim are you reading this !
I saved my glycerine mix from last year and it's gone mouldy:tired:Comment
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Yep, I’m reading this John. I had to have a good look around to see how glycerol (glycerine is the same thing, but glycerol is the “proper” name). works before I could answer. I may not be completely correct, but in essence glycerol works as a humectant, keeping things moist by attracting water through its hygroscopic properties. It therefore maintains the moisture content of the plant material, stopping it from drying out and therefore not allowing the cellulose component to become brittle.
What has probably happened with your stored solutions is that they have been in a damp environment and are no longer hydroscopic? Not sure why yours became mouldy though Neil, glycerol has anti microbial and antiviral properties?Comment
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Hi Neil, they started to loose colour, so from this I assume they have not taken any glycerine or the added green colorant in. ( Food Colouring, which has always worked before) Oh yes always goes mouldy !:smiling2: I've skimmed nearly 20mm off the top before now:flushed:. Not on this one though, when I soak the seas grass it always happens, as there's loads of material that gets dislodged and lies in the mix.
Thanks Tim.:smiling3: Hoped you would. Yes in layman's terms that what I thought. Think the amount of time I allowed was well below for the mix to enter the stem. As for the mould Tim is seems to happen if you allow any partials of vegetation to remain in the mix when you store it.Yep, I’m reading this John. I had to have a good look around to see how glycerol (glycerine is the same thing, but glycerol is the “proper” name). works before I could answer. I may not be completely correct, but in essence glycerol works as a humectant, keeping things moist by attracting water through its hygroscopic properties. It therefore maintains the moisture content of the plant material, stopping it from drying out and therefore not allowing the cellulose component to become brittle.
What has probably happened with your stored solutions is that they have been in a damp environment and are no longer hydroscopic? Not sure why yours became mouldy though Neil, glycerol has anti microbial and antiviral properties?Comment
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That was my theory John. So it's good to know it can be rescued and doesn't need to be chucked, thanksComment
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The first time I looked in the plastic container Neil to find this fury green thing floating on the top I was horrified. Though that's it , but it came out so well in one great sheet. I'm sure it was alive :flushed:.
Just one of those things Jim, we learn by mistakes. Now on with the Scots Pine, dowel trucks and .4 paper covered wire. I've been twisting some together to make larger branches, then covering the wire in thick PVA. The bottle of latex rubber I had since 2016 has gone into a thick mess, and dried out.:cold-sweat: Ordered some more but a smaller bottle, great, for putting onto the wires to cover them and of course flexible.
Thanks for looking in guys and your comments.Comment
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