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  • Jack L
    SMF Supporters
    • Jul 2018
    • 1277
    • Cheltenham

    #31
    Think you have absolutely nailed the 'Nightshift method'. I saw his video of this recently and it really does make sense. Looking forward to trying it myself...although sure it's not as easy as it looks. Be very happy if I achieve your results.

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    • Niho
      • Apr 2022
      • 605

      #32
      Originally posted by John Race
      I put mine in the microwave, potatoes are optional if you want .5 mins on full power !
      I did that once and discovered lots of ferrous bits sparking away

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      • stillp
        • Nov 2016
        • 8103
        • Pete
        • Rugby

        #33
        Kew Gardens sterilise soil by putting it in the freezer for a couple of hours.
        Pete

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        • The Smythe Meister
          • Jan 2019
          • 6248

          #34
          Hi Rob,
          Firstly,.... I have ABSOLUTELY NO IDEA about using real earth for Dios:disappointed2:,HOWEVER, i find that all that hassle to use it can be avoided!...
          .... I just paste on a little PVA,scatter some bird grit and whichever other additions you may want,say, stones/rocks,then stain in a relevant base earth colour,(Depending on which region you want to portray).... Job done:thumb2:... No Gardening required!!:tears-of-joy:
          Obviously it`s just my methods... but they work IMHO !!
          Second question is,which MG Team is that which you have done?,They look absolutely awesome by the way....
          They look a little like a set i have from Academy.... but with some subtle differences?
          Excellent work all round Mate:thumb2:
          Andy

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          • Caustik Filth
            SMF Supporters
            • Jan 2022
            • 364
            • Rob
            • Portsmouth

            #35
            Originally posted by John Race
            Looking really good Rob.
            Thank you kindly John, and I'm chuffed to see you've found an exciting new direction to bump start your mojo. I'll pop over and take a peek over the gathering crowds heads if I may.
            Cheers Rob.
            Originally posted by Jack L
            Think you have absolutely nailed the 'Nightshift method'. I saw his video of this recently and it really does make sense. Looking forward to trying it myself...although sure it's not as easy as it looks. Be very happy if I achieve your results.
            Thanks Jack, t'woz nerve racking but fun! Go for it!
            Cheers Rob

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            • Tim Marlow
              • Apr 2018
              • 18940
              • Tim
              • Somerset UK

              #36
              Originally posted by stillp
              Kew Gardens sterilise soil by putting it in the freezer for a couple of hours.
              Pete
              Sorry to be old mister negative Peter, but there is no way that freezing things will sterilise them. Biologicals such as bacteria, tissue samples, and seed libraries, are kept at -70 DegC to keep them viable. The master cell bank for the main product I worked on for thirty odd years was stored this way in the nineteen sixties and still gIves viable cell lines in 2022…for example.
              Some seeds need to be frozen and thawed before they germinate as well. Can’t name any species off the top of my head, but I bet John can

              Freezing can selectively reduce bioburden, killing such things as germinated annual plants by disrupting cellular material, as the water crystals grow large enough to burst structures if the freezing is done slowly. However, the only way to sterilise anything (achieve a six log reduction in viable biological material) is by filtration, by heat, by treating with chemicals, by exposure to ultra Violet light, or by exposure to radiation. This was a standard interview question for biopharmaceutical production candidates throughout my career :smiling5:

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              • scottie3158
                • Apr 2018
                • 14242
                • Paul
                • Holbeach

                #37
                Rob,
                Sorry mate this has passed me by up until now. Excellent work so far and i have to agree with Nick that's exactly what I do for my soil cook it and grade it lol.

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                • The Smythe Meister
                  • Jan 2019
                  • 6248

                  #38
                  MATE!!... It's just a hobby!!
                  Don't get bogged down(see what I did there?!! ) With all this stuff!!
                  IMHO ,it's great to get a realistic Dio,(I'm ALL for that ), However, the main thing is the AFVs,Figures,to stand out
                  The base is indeed critical.... But only to supplement the main protagonists... NOT to take top seat!!

                  Only my thoughts, obviously, but I have done,and seen,MANY Dios done with a very pleasing outcome without all this "Earth Drying" nonsense !!
                  I'll probably be shot down... But it's all about opinions eh ?!!
                  Andy

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                  • stillp
                    • Nov 2016
                    • 8103
                    • Pete
                    • Rugby

                    #39
                    Originally posted by Tim Marlow
                    Sorry to be old mister negative Peter, but there is no way that freezing things will sterilise them. Biologicals such as bacteria, tissue samples, and seed libraries, are kept at -70 DegC to keep them viable. The master cell bank for the main product I worked on for thirty odd years was stored this way in the nineteen sixties and still gIves viable cell lines in 2022…for example.
                    Some seeds need to be frozen and thawed before they germinate as well. Can’t name any species off the top of my head, but I bet John can

                    Freezing can selectively reduce bioburden, killing such things as germinated annual plants by disrupting cellular material, as the water crystals grow large enough to burst structures if the freezing is done slowly. However, the only way to sterilise anything (achieve a six log reduction in viable biological material) is by filtration, by heat, by treating with chemicals, by exposure to ultra Violet light, or by exposure to radiation. This was a standard interview question for biopharmaceutical production candidates throughout my career :smiling5:
                    Yes, sorry, I should have put quote marks around 'sterilise'. Freezing the compost is apparently how they reduce the probability of introducing pathogens with new plants, according to one of the staff at their quarantine centre who was interviewed on the radio a couple of week ago. Possibly she was referring only to killing off any insect life? I know that domestic freezer temperatures of -18 C will kill off woodworm in wood.
                    Pete

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                    • Caustik Filth
                      SMF Supporters
                      • Jan 2022
                      • 364
                      • Rob
                      • Portsmouth

                      #40
                      Originally posted by stillp
                      Kew Gardens sterilise soil by putting it in the freezer for a couple of hours.
                      Pete
                      That would keep it from smelling and producing loud muttering from da missis, but I should be ok for a bit, knocked up a job lot!
                      Cheers Rob.
                      Originally posted by The Smythe Meister
                      Hi Rob,
                      Firstly,.... I have ABSOLUTELY NO IDEA about using real earth for Dios:disappointed2:,HOWEVER, i find that all that hassle to use it can be avoided!...
                      .... I just paste on a little PVA,scatter some bird grit and whichever other additions you may want,say, stones/rocks,then stain in a relevant base earth colour,(Depending on which region you want to portray).... Job done:thumb2:... No Gardening required!!:tears-of-joy:
                      Obviously it`s just my methods... but they work IMHO !!
                      Second question is,which MG Team is that which you have done?,They look absolutely awesome by the way....
                      They look a little like a set i have from Academy.... but with some subtle differences?
                      Excellent work all round Mate:thumb2:
                      Andy
                      I'll have to check out bird grit Andy, I've heard tell of the use of cat litter in dios but yet to try.
                      I tried using lentils as cobble stones pushed into my polyfiller base, didn't think it through, and naturally they expanded over night!
                      Became more of a rocky road
                      The MG team are tamiya German Machine Gun Troops, good value I thought.
                      Cheers Rob.

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                      • minitnkr
                        • Apr 2018
                        • 7565
                        • Paul
                        • Dayton, OH USA

                        #41
                        Have used sifted/graded kitty litter, sifted/graded garden soil, sifted/graded silt from street gutter, broken up dry wall, broken up brick, ground autumn leaves, ground up tobacco, ground up & graded foam, lichen, and sedum tree armatures without pretreatment for over 30 years w/o ill effect.

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                        • Caustik Filth
                          SMF Supporters
                          • Jan 2022
                          • 364
                          • Rob
                          • Portsmouth

                          #42
                          Originally posted by scottie3158
                          Rob,
                          Sorry mate this has passed me by up until now. Excellent work so far and i have to agree with Nick that's exactly what I do for my soil cook it and grade it lol.
                          Cheers Scottie

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                          • Caustik Filth
                            SMF Supporters
                            • Jan 2022
                            • 364
                            • Rob
                            • Portsmouth

                            #43
                            Originally posted by minitnkr
                            Have used sifted/graded kitty litter, sifted/graded garden soil, sifted/graded silt from street gutter, broken up dry wall, broken up brick, ground autumn leaves, ground up tobacco, ground up & graded foam, lichen, and sedum tree armatures without pretreatment for over 30 years w/o ill effect.
                            That's cool, cheers , good to know that anything goes!

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                            • Caustik Filth
                              SMF Supporters
                              • Jan 2022
                              • 364
                              • Rob
                              • Portsmouth

                              #44
                              As often happens life gets in the way of checking out the forums and bench time but have gotten a bit more done...Click image for larger version

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ID:	1178086Got these chaps sorted.
                              Using stock figures can be awkward at times ( gonna ave to try more major surgery next time ) when I first tried the fella crawling through the bush he look ok, but when he was finished I couldn't get him to settle in position properly.Click image for larger version

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ID:	1178090I knocked up a few tin cans from sprue and cardboard boxes, and added gear and weapons including the pak 97/38 and crew and finally finished the tree.

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                              • Caustik Filth
                                SMF Supporters
                                • Jan 2022
                                • 364
                                • Rob
                                • Portsmouth

                                #45
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ID:	1178092I also added some cut branches to the forward sandbags in an attempt to camo them a bit, I now realize forward planning forward planning!
                                Doh!
                                Hope to finish and tidy the base before Tankfest, so I can have a bash at something new when I get back.
                                Comments welcome and plonking the tree so central was lack of planning again...cut,glue,learn!!

                                Cheers Rob
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