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  • Tim Marlow
    • Apr 2018
    • 18938
    • Tim
    • Somerset UK

    #1

    Franco Prussian war French artillerymen. 30mm flats of unknown origin.

    Well, I got through them. These are 30mm flat figures, but I’m afraid I don’t know the manufacturer. I’ve always wanted to try flats and these were an impulse buy on eBay to see how I got on. They take a lot more thinking about than my usual little blokes, so subsequently take a lot longer than rounds ????. Anyway, hope you like them.

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    Yes, I did paint both sides ????.

    The traditional calibration shot…more like jewellery than modelling.
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    …and yes, they really are flat….
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  • PaulTRose
    SMF Supporters
    • Jun 2013
    • 6540
    • Paul
    • Tattooine

    #2
    Fascinating! Never knew these existed
    top notch work there
    Per Ardua

    We'll ride the spiral to the end and may just go where no ones been

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    • Jim R
      SMF Supporters
      • Apr 2018
      • 15778
      • Jim
      • Shropshire

      #3
      Those are excellent Tim. I've seen "flats" painted before but those only had a single side moulding. These are something I've never seen before. Although many established techniques must be relevant to these I'll bet you did a fair bit of head scratching

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      • flyjoe180
        SMF Supporters
        • Jan 2012
        • 12463
        • Joe
        • Earth

        #4
        Nice work Tim. Flat figures must be very unique?

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        • Tim Marlow
          • Apr 2018
          • 18938
          • Tim
          • Somerset UK

          #5
          Originally posted by PaulTRose
          Fascinating! Never knew these existed
          top notch work there
          Cheers Paul. Glad you like them. There are many, many, thousands of them out there, of all periods in history, but mostly they come from Germany. Look up Zinnfiguren if you are interested.

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          • Tim Marlow
            • Apr 2018
            • 18938
            • Tim
            • Somerset UK

            #6
            Originally posted by Jim R
            Those are excellent Tim. I've seen "flats" painted before but those only had a single side moulding. These are something I've never seen before. Although many established techniques must be relevant to these I'll bet you did a fair bit of head scratching
            Sure did Jim. Almost nothing I usually do was relevant apart from colour layering. Even the Imagined lighting direction was different to what I use on round figures.

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            • Tim Marlow
              • Apr 2018
              • 18938
              • Tim
              • Somerset UK

              #7
              Originally posted by flyjoe180
              Nice work Tim. Flat figures must be very unique?
              Cheers Joe. They are a bit rarer in the UK, but over all, there are probably more flats in existence than there are round figures. They’ve been produced for well over a hundred years now. Have a look through here for a taster……

              https://www.zinnfigur.com/en/Flat-Fi...?makairaFilter[NEW]=true

              there are many more out there, but the editors (that’s what they call themselves) are very “old school” and don’t really advertise on line. I first saw them as a little kid, probably about eight. Wilton house, a big country house near Salisbury, had a display of about six thousand arranged in large dioramas. It’s one of the things that hooked me into the figure world. That was a good fifty five years ago now, and they were old then….
              Last edited by Tim Marlow; 14 April 2025, 21:38.

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              • Airborne01
                • Mar 2021
                • 4024
                • Steve
                • Essex

                #8
                Flats were very popular in the 70's but then seemed to disappear; good to watch you resurrecting the genre Tim. I think your work will inspire many others to try them!. If I remember correctly many of the premium manufacturers were German - some names on tip of tongue but 'senility' wins again!
                Steve

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                • Tim Marlow
                  • Apr 2018
                  • 18938
                  • Tim
                  • Somerset UK

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Airborne01
                  Flats were very popular in the 70's but then seemed to disappear; good to watch you resurrecting the genre Tim. I think your work will inspire many others to try them!. If I remember correctly many of the premium manufacturers were German - some names on tip of tongue but 'senility' wins again!
                  Steve
                  I think the rise of the round 25mm figure around that time killed them off as a mainstream gaming figure Steve, so the market shrank considerably to the collectors only. Virtually all of the best editors and engravers were/are German. There are some French and British manufactures, but everything seems to be pretty much kept in the realm of secrets. Unfortunately it’s a world that doesn’t seem to have transferred well to the internet, so it’s very hard to trace and identify figures. The Brexit debacle has made P &P prohibitive from the EU so the supply has largely dried up.
                  Took me a good few hours to actually work out what these were, let alone who made them. I was convinced they were ACW to start with, but couldn’t find anything like them in my uniform information stash. I have nothing on the FPW, and there is little on the artillery troops on line, but I finally found one illustration of the uniforms these guys are wearing.
                  Glad you like them though.
                  Last edited by Tim Marlow; 15 April 2025, 08:56.

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                  • Neil Merryweather
                    • Dec 2018
                    • 5204
                    • London

                    #10
                    Nicely done Tim, good to see you back with the little blokes.
                    I find round figures challenging enough with moulded creases etc to define the shading. Clearly there's a lot more artistic skill required for these boys.
                    Top job!

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                    • Tim Marlow
                      • Apr 2018
                      • 18938
                      • Tim
                      • Somerset UK

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Neil Merryweather
                      Nicely done Tim, good to see you back with the little blokes.
                      I find round figures challenging enough with moulded creases etc to define the shading. Clearly there's a lot more artistic skill required for these boys.
                      Top job!
                      Cheers Neil. There are some demarcation lines, but in effect it is like painting by numbers

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