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  • Guest

    #1

    Near miss in Spain

    Anyone else seen the news about that near miss in spain?

    I should imagine the Russian pilot was saying a few choice words. I know the guy filming was using a good zoom but even so the Spanish are claiming it wasn't a near.
  • flyjoe180
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    • Jan 2012
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    • Joe
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    #2
    I saw this. Considering the angle and distance is was shot from I'd say it was not as close as the video appears to make it look. The A340 was crossing the runway not lining up. A good judgement call from the Russian pilots to go around but it certainly wasn't a near death thing. They are blaming the controllers in the articles I have read, but pilots have a responsibility (at busy airports especially), to be able to accept a clearance immediately, if not you decline the clearance and wait. If it was a controller issue then it will be reported and dealt with accordingly. In low visibility conditions nothing would have been allowed near the runway at all, this was a clear day. Storm in a tea cup. It's happened to me and it will happen somewhere else in the world today.

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    • flyjoe180
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      • Jan 2012
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      #3
      Search for landing near misses on Youtube and it's full of them.

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      • Ian M
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        • Dec 2008
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        • Ian
        • Falster, Denmark

        #4
        Funny that no one mentions the two that actually collided at Standsted the other day. Probably due to no one being killed.

        Ian M
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        • John
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          • Mar 2004
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          • John
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          #5
          Wife doesn't like flying at the best of time, she's going to Germany next week and this didn't help

          Ian, she's also going to Denmark while she's there so I told her to call in for a cuppa
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          • monica
            • Oct 2013
            • 15169

            #6
            I saw one on the news and that said it was an airshow in the UK, with ,the jet,pilot trying to get a cup of tea i think,

            but did not see or hear about the other 2

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            • rickoshea52
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              • Dec 2011
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              #7
              I'm with Joe, storm in a teacup and the camera angle can be deceptive as it's possible the approach threshold is in dead ground beyond the horizon. I've seen lots of go arounds at Lossiemouth and been a passenger on two, the first was at Gatwick because a jet hadn't cleared the runway and the second at Toronto when the jet in front crashed.
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              • Guest

                #8
                Originally posted by \
                I saw one on the news and that said it was an airshow in the UK, with ,the jet,pilot trying to get a cup of tea i think,but did not see or hear about the other 2
                Monica I think the one you are refering to was at Waddington this weekend just gone. An F-16 was low on approach as they sometimes do there. It wasn't so much the fact it was so low it was the morons that chose to stand directly in/under the glide slope of he plane. Some who then complained as they were made to dive of fences/ladders ect. If brains were a disease them people would be in the best of health.

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                • Guest

                  #9
                  Originally posted by \
                  I saw this. Considering the angle and distance is was shot from I'd say it was not as close as the video appears to make it look. The A340 was crossing the runway not lining up. A good judgement call from the Russian pilots to go around but it certainly wasn't a near death thing. They are blaming the controllers in the articles I have read, but pilots have a responsibility (at busy airports especially), to be able to accept a clearance immediately, if not you decline the clearance and wait. If it was a controller issue then it will be reported and dealt with accordingly. In low visibility conditions nothing would have been allowed near the runway at all, this was a clear day. Storm in a tea cup. It's happened to me and it will happen somewhere else in the world today.
                  I stand corrected Joe.

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                  • Ian M
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                    • Dec 2008
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                    • Ian
                    • Falster, Denmark

                    #10
                    Originally posted by \
                    Wife doesn't like flying at the best of time, she's going to Germany next week and this didn't help Ian, she's also going to Denmark while she's there so I told her to call in for a cuppa
                    Just let me know when and I'll put the kettle on.

                    Do you know where she will going?

                    Its not a bus trip is it? I only have a little tea pot.

                    Ian M
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                    Bismarck

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                    • Guest

                      #11
                      I didn't think it was a near miss either. The incoming jet had plenty of time to go around safely - exactly what you're trained to do. Agree with the above comments - a zoom lens will compress perspective giving a false impression of closeness. Having said all that, it still shouldn't have happened.

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                      • John
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                        • Mar 2004
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                        • John
                        • Halifax

                        #12
                        Originally posted by \
                        Do you know where she will going?
                        No, it's someone's wedding she doens't know, her friend is doing the photography
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                        • ojays
                          • Oct 2011
                          • 1713

                          #13
                          Originally posted by \
                          Monica I think the one you are refering to was at Waddington this weekend just gone. An F-16 was low on approach as they sometimes do there. It wasn't so much the fact it was so low it was the morons that chose to stand directly in/under the glide slope of he plane. Some who then complained as they were made to dive of fences/ladders ect. If brains were a disease them people would be in the best of health.
                          Plus the idiot holding a walking stick or cane up as high as he could.

                          Didn't he realise the damage he could have caused to that expensive piece of kit.

                          Gregg

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