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  • monica
    • Oct 2013
    • 15169

    #1

    which way is right, ???

    I know this maybe a silly question,but with way should the

    Engels head be facing in the ww11 German,signs or badgers ,symbols, ?

    as it shows it both ways and i wont it to be right ? ops:

    any help would be appreciated,

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  • Alan 45
    • Nov 2012
    • 9833

    #2
    I've just had a quick look moni and I don't think it maters , there's loads of photos with it facing both ways

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    • rickoshea52
      SMF Supporters
      • Dec 2011
      • 4076
      • Rick

      #3
      Copied from Wikipedia so probably should be taken with a pinch of salt. The last few sentences are for you.

      "During Nazi rule, a stylised eagle combined with the Nazi swastika was made the national emblem (Hoheitszeichen) by order of Adolf Hitler in 1935. Despite its mediæval origin, the term "Reichsadler" in common English understanding is mostly associated with this specific Nazi era version. The Nazi Party had used a very similar symbol for itself, called the Parteiadler ("Party's eagle"). These two insignia can be distinguished as the Reichsadler looks to its right shoulder whereas the Parteiadler looks to its left shoulder"

      If you were wondering, the RAF eagle (or shitehawk) is stylised looking left and right but is actually worn on the shoulder with the Eagles looking behind the wearer of the uniform, this is the same for aircrew rank badges that also incorporate the eagle. With newer uniforms having the rank badges on a slide on the chest I don't know what the convention is - I was never aircrew and didn't pay them any particular attention.
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      • Guest

        #4
        Originally posted by \
        Copied from Wikipedia so probably should be taken with a pinch of salt. The last few sentences are for you......

        If you were wondering, the RAF eagle (or shitehawk) is stylised looking left and right but is actually worn on the shoulder with the Eagles looking behind the wearer of the uniform, this.....
        Was it really called that!?

        I have just looked it up:

        Wiktionary
        1. shitehawk(Noun)An objectionable person; a twat or w**ker.
        2. shitehawk(Noun)A scavenger bird found in the urban environment particularly near rubbish dumps, such as seagulls.

        People wearing uniforms usually have great respect for their emblems.

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        • stona
          • Jul 2008
          • 9889

          #5
          My dad always called sea gulls shite hawks. I assumed that it was a Navy thing

          Cheers

          Steve

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          • rickoshea52
            SMF Supporters
            • Dec 2011
            • 4076
            • Rick

            #6
            Originally posted by \
            Was it really called that!?I have just looked it up:

            Wiktionary
            1. shitehawk(Noun)An objectionable person; a twat or w**ker.
            2. shitehawk(Noun)A scavenger bird found in the urban environment particularly near rubbish dumps, such as seagulls.

            People wearing uniforms usually have great respect for their emblems.
            Only the junior ranks wore the shitehawk on their No.1 jackets but the aircrew wore a gold one incorporated into their rank badges on both their No.1's and their shoulders. Our (the rest of the RAF) slang name for aircrew was growbag because they always wore flying suits and are full of shit.
            On the bench: Airfix 1/48 Sea King HC4, Revell 1/24 Trabant.
            Coming soon: Airfix 1/72 Phantom FGR2.
            Just finished: Airfix 1/48 Stuka & Airfix 1/72 Sea King HC4.

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            • monica
              • Oct 2013
              • 15169

              #7
              thank you all,for your help,Alan,Rick,Steve ,Steve,

              as I,m using it on a building

              ,called the Parteiadler ("Party's eagle"). These two insignia can be distinguished as the Reichsadler looks to its right shoulder whereas the Parteiadler looks to its left shoulder"

              .

              so what i need to work out is a build used by the Nazi party called is ? then i have my real answer ? to the facing head ?

              I do like the ist one Steve,i think thats funny

              shitehawk(Noun)

              An objectionable person; a twat or w**ker.

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              • Richi72
                • Sep 2013
                • 1100

                #8
                Hi Moni,

                may be this helps

                its a search in google in German LINK1

                and this one LINK 2

                Cheers Richi

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                • monica
                  • Oct 2013
                  • 15169

                  #9
                  ta Richi,will have alook when i get home tonight running very late lol,always the same with,me

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                  • monica
                    • Oct 2013
                    • 15169

                    #10
                    great links thank you so much Richi,

                    well to me it seams to be facing more left when combined with the swastika,

                    and mostly right when just the Engels,

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                    • flyjoe180
                      SMF Supporters
                      • Jan 2012
                      • 12463
                      • Joe
                      • Earth

                      #11
                      I read it as being the eagle looks right for a national symbol in Germany (as in today's coat of arms) and left for the Nazi Party version. So it's possible that the eagle could have been looking either way depending on the circumstances of where it was being shown ie at a Party Rally it would no doubt have been shown looking left, and at State events looking right.

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                      • monica
                        • Oct 2013
                        • 15169

                        #12
                        ta Joe,thats is interesting, to know so real from a party building it would be facing left, in the 1940,s as a national building ?

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                        • flyjoe180
                          SMF Supporters
                          • Jan 2012
                          • 12463
                          • Joe
                          • Earth

                          #13
                          If it was a national (state) building it would face right. If it was on a banner at a nutters' party rally it would face left.

                          I'm only guessing but seems reasonable.

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