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  • colin m
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    • Dec 2008
    • 8927
    • Colin
    • Stafford, UK

    #1

    Petrol and tax

    Just speaking in rough figures, if petrol does get down to £1.00 a litre, we will be spending 20p buying the fuel and 80p in tax.

    Does anyone know of another product were the tax is so much greater than the cost of the product ?

    I can't think of anything.

    Colin M...
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    #2
    Yes but if you change that why not VAT on food

    We do in Jersey

    Laurie

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    • Guest

      #3
      Considering most food deliveries are done by road, tax on fuel is effectively a tax on food, along with everything else in the shops.

      The money that the government get certainly doesn't go back to maintain the roads that earn them the money!

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        #4
        Originally posted by \
        Considering most food deliveries are done by road, tax on fuel is effectively a tax on food, along with everything else in the shops.The money that the government get certainly doesn't go back to maintain the roads that earn them the money!
        Minute tho Patrick we pay 5% tax on every carrot and every sprout (each one is individually marked with the tax cost ). On a host of other things which are delivered to Jersey and for which we pay the fuel plus the tax that your government ( that means you with all the population of the UK) place and collect on delivery to Jersey.

        In the end the taxes that your government collect ( the government is all the people in the UK not some exalted lot it is all you UK types) go to running the country. Not all may be fair, it would appear, for instance some tax paid may go to keep a family that are poor . The government is no different from a family it is just a huge family of all those who live in the UK.

        Laurie

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        • Guest

          #5
          Originally posted by \
          Just speaking in rough figures, if petrol does get down to £1.00 a litre, we will be spending 20p buying the fuel and 80p in tax.Does anyone know of another product were the tax is so much greater than the cost of the product ?

          I can't think of anything.

          Colin M...
          Cigarettes and Alcohol

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          • Ian M
            Administrator
            • Dec 2008
            • 18286
            • Ian
            • Falster, Denmark

            #6
            25% vat on everything. (on top of all the other taxes).

            Petrol about 95% is tax and duties.

            Cars, Cars! 250 - 350% in duties. 25% vat on top of that....

            Income tax around 39%.

            Came back when you have something to moan about.

            Ian M
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            Bismarck

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            • Guest

              #7
              http://www.the-tma.org.uk/tma-publications-research/facts-figures/uk-cigarette-prices/

              77% tax on Cigarettes

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              • colin m
                Moderator
                • Dec 2008
                • 8927
                • Colin
                • Stafford, UK

                #8
                Originally posted by \
                25% vat on everything. (on top of all the other taxes).Petrol about 95% is tax and duties.

                Cars, Cars! 250 - 350% in duties. 25% vat on top of that....

                Income tax around 39%.

                Came back when you have something to moan about.

                Ian M
                Good god Ian. What do they spend all that on. You must have the best roads / health service/education system in Europe. I hope.

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                • eddiesolo
                  • Jul 2013
                  • 11193

                  #9
                  Originally posted by \
                  25% vat on everything. (on top of all the other taxes).Petrol about 95% is tax and duties.

                  Cars, Cars! 250 - 350% in duties. 25% vat on top of that....

                  Income tax around 39%.

                  Came back when you have something to moan about.

                  Ian M
                  Er...why live there then?

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                  • Guest

                    #10
                    What I have read is that Scandinavian countries are the most protective of all of their population through out the world.

                    They seem to be progressive in the running of their countries for the good of all the people in them.

                    Beggars belief that they can achieve this to be so unselfish. It would seem in other countries in Europe this would not work as the structure of the party politics does not allow it. That is that each political party is struggling to gain votes and being something to every person loses them votes.

                    The question is then how do the Scandinavians achieve this very fair way of living ?

                    Laurie

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                    • Guest

                      #11
                      Originally posted by \
                      Er...why live there then?
                      Si what have you done to yourself Please return to your normal self

                      Laurie

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                      • Guest

                        #12
                        Originally posted by \
                        25% vat on everything. (on top of all the other taxes).Petrol about 95% is tax and duties.

                        Cars, Cars! 250 - 350% in duties. 25% vat on top of that....

                        Income tax around 39%.

                        Came back when you have something to moan about.

                        Ian M
                        Life is all about choices and weighing up the advantages against the disadvantages. We can all pick out things to complain about in our daily lives but we can also be thankful for the good things we have. I know Norway has some of the highest taxation rates going (fuel is the highest in Europe by quite a bit) but they also have some pretty amazing benefits and a couple of Norwegian colleagues of mine once told me that despite having the opportunity to live anywhere in the world they wanted they still chose to remain a resident of Norway for too many reasons to state here.

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                        • Guest

                          #13
                          Originally posted by \
                          Life is all about choices and weighing up the advantages against the disadvantages. We can all pick out things to complain about in our daily lives but we can also be thankful for the good things we have. I know Norway has some of the highest taxation rates going (fuel is the highest in Europe by quite a bit) but they also have some pretty amazing benefits and a couple of Norwegian colleagues of mine once told me that despite having the opportunity to live anywhere in the world they wanted they still chose to remain a resident of Norway for too many reasons to state here.
                          Well said Richard. But how and I am intrigued how do they politically achieve that.

                          Seems to be a fabulous goal to aim for. I can only think that it is gross selfishness which precludes that achievement out side Scandinavian countries.

                          Laurie

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                          • Dave W
                            • Jan 2011
                            • 4713

                            #14
                            The UK isn't perfect .But I wouldn't want to live anywhere else.

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                            • Ian M
                              Administrator
                              • Dec 2008
                              • 18286
                              • Ian
                              • Falster, Denmark

                              #15
                              Originally posted by \
                              You must have the best roads / health service/education system in Europe.
                              o_O

                              Well the health service is free....but not dental, that you have to pay for. A crown can set you back £500'ish...

                              The roads are.... not bad., but we also pay a yearly "tax" for the honour of driving on them,,,

                              The education system here is like the UK under funded, over stretched and failing. lol

                              Cigarettes are cheaper here though, only £4 a pack! (oh there goes another 20p LOL)

                              a case of 30 bottles of pop cost more than beer due to taxes on sugar..Even if the soda's are 'sugar free'.

                              Here is a good one. NUTS. there is a special tax on nuts. between 40 - 60% of the price is tax. its an old tax from the war (I think) when nuts where a luxury item, like chocolate..

                              Originally posted by \
                              I know Norway has some of the highest taxation rates going (fuel is the highest in Europe by quite a bit)...
                              And in second place we have.........Denmark.

                              However Denmark is not the oil nation Norway is and does not have the "savings" that they do. last I heard there is over one million krone per person in Norway being saved for a rainy day...

                              But as you point out, I am here 'cause I like it here.

                              Ian M
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