Project Bluebook

[Ian M]

I can come with all kinds of theories and speculations, but will try to contain myself

Here are just a few thoughts to keep this going.

There are cave paintings which are thousands of years old which depict "weird" beings and fire from the skys... No nasty Governments or the Internet, hell there was hardly any common language..How could it be that there are so many similarities.

Experimental aircraft and covert ops... A good a reason as any... These days. How does one explain these sightings before man had gotten off the ground.

If there is intelligent life 'out there' who is to know if they are much older and clevererere than we are. We have got the speed of sound whipped, maybe they have done it to light speed.

Maybe they had the idea to make a deep space ark. knowing that it would take more than a life time (by our measure of time...) If could be those cave paintings are just the proof that they came, they saw, and said, nah! we'll come back in a couple of thousand years.. These beings are way to behind.

I can't say I don't believe in them. Nor saying that I do. Only time will tell if the little (grey)green men exist. As for any form of life 'out there' Of course there is. To thing otherwise is both naive and just a bit arrogant. (sorry).

Ian M

[stona]

I think all art, including cave paintings, is more a reflection of the breadth of the human imagination than it is the evidence of alien visitation.

It is easy to forget that the people who made that art, thousands of years ago, are essentially just like Goya, Caravaggio, Rembrandt or Banksy

Cheers

Steve

[Alan 45]

I've always wondered about the 'Big Bang' theory. What made it go bang?

Probably a woman

I can come with all kinds of theories and speculations, but will try to contain myselfHere are just a few thoughts to keep this going.

There are cave paintings which are thousands of years old which depict "weird" beings and fire from the skys... No nasty Governments or the Internet, hell there was hardly any common language..How could it be that there are so many similarities.

Experimental aircraft and covert ops... A good a reason as any... These days. How does one explain these sightings before man had gotten off the ground.

If there is intelligent life 'out there' who is to know if they are much older and clevererere than we are. We have got the speed of sound whipped, maybe they have done it to light speed.

Maybe they had the idea to make a deep space ark. knowing that it would take more than a life time (by our measure of time...) If could be those cave paintings are just the proof that they came, they saw, and said, nah! we'll come back in a couple of thousand years.. These beings are way to behind.

I can't say I don't believe in them. Nor saying that I do. Only time will tell if the little (grey)green men exist. As for any form of life 'out there' Of course there is. To thing otherwise is both naive and just a bit arrogant. (sorry).

Ian M

too easy to explain Ian the fire in the sky could be lightening or the Aroura borialis

[Guest]

Probably a woman too easy to explain Ian the fire in the sky could be lightening or the Aroura borialis

even the outlaws even

Laurie

[Guest]

Every body talks about going into space etc.

But has any one thought first of going to the centre of earth and finding out what is there. :P

After all if surgeons can slide things thro arteries and veins from the nether regions into the heart it is not beyond the wit of man to travel to the centre of the earth.

Laurie

[takeslousyphotos]

Every body talks about going into space etc.But has any one thought first of going to the centre of earth and finding out what is there. :P

After all if surgeons can slide things thro arteries and veins from the nether regions into the heart it is not beyond the wit of man to travel to the centre of the earth.

Laurie

I believe Jules Verne did it ages ago...... Dinosaurs and stuff down there. I seem to recall there was a waterfall as well ........

Peter

[Ian M]

It is easy to forget that the people who made that art, thousands of years ago, are essentially just like Goya, Caravaggio, Rembrandt or Banksy

So we agree. They painted what they saw..... lol

Ian M

[Ian M]

But has any one thought first of going to the centre of earth and finding out what is there. :P

LOL thats right up there with the headlines that North Korea have successfully landed a manned mission on the Sun.... LOL

Ian M

[Guest]

I love the idea of aliens (Predator & Alien), but in reality, here on earth, no..... Statistically speaking there is life out there somewhere in one form or another, but not here, but for the sake off this thread lets say there is.

A far off civilization that has been around for hundreds of thousands of years, so technologically advanced that they have conquered space travel, and can flit from one galaxy to another in the blink of an eye, and on their travels come across us, so what do they do?.... Destroy us, enslave us, use us as batteries...... Or give us world peace, enlighten us, give us a cure for all diseases and offer immortality....... No, what they give us is anal probing and crop circles........ Not quite war of the worlds is it.

[Guest]

Long post: sorry. I agree with Steve (Stona). Some additional thought on the lifespans of intelligent life. I think that the human race will last about another 150 years (perhaps less in view of the present accelerating rate of scientific advance) before severe constraints build up such as depletion of physical resources, pollution, conflict between nations etc. stop further big-scale scientific and technological advances. Before that decline bites, forcing us to turn to survival strategies, we have, say, another 100 years from now to launch a number of manned space flights to other stars. Suppose we launch 20 such missions. These would have to be be aimed in different directions. The chances of one of these being detected by other intelligent life must be minute given the vastness of space.

Even if we aimed accurately, the nearest planet so far detected that could support advanced life is about 500,000 light years away. At a quarter of the speed of light it would take 2 million years to reach that planet. (Propulsion energy problems perhaps?) Also, with a new generation of space travellers every 25 years, that would take 80,000 years and half a million generations for one to be alive on arrival. Mutation during that time could be a problem, and no scientific laboratories on board to solve them. Also, there would be a problem of strife between our space travellers during that time.

From this, I think that the chances of sending humans to another planet are effectively zero. The same applies to other intelligent life doing the same and succeeding in aiming at us and getting here. So no green men here.

We (or other life forms) could of course simply send radio signals demonstrating intelligent life (as we have, once), including the value of pi and other mathematical truths. That would overcome the problem of keeping humans alive. But the number of such signals needed, aimed all over the cosmos (to have a fair chance of hitting intelligent life) would be truly enormous (unless such life was almost everywhere). The same but in reverse applies to those sending messages to us.

So, no aliens or signals arriving, especially given the only 150 years of human life span (see above) during which we could detect such signals.

An interesting thought: assuming that intelligent life is fairly common, we can imagine the universe at any one time as having people in various parts sending signals that no one else would ever detect, partly because of the aiming problem and partly because of the short lifespan of intelligent life being able to detect signals. Even if we did detect signals, any reply would take half a million years to reach even the relatively close planet mentioned above, by which time the senders would have had died out. They would never receive a reply. I think that is very sad. Another interesting thought: if we sent a signal today, any intelligent life at the receiving end would not have emerged yet.

But what about worm holes, a passage to another place at another time? We've got about 100 years to discover them and use them. Start now.

[john i am]

It's obvious we've already been invaded by aliens.Anyone who works or deals with the general public on a daily basis will have first hand knowledge of this.Best way to spot new aliens amongst us. 1. hang around a customer service dept in any retail store and watch for unusual behaviour.2 take a trip on any form of public transport and see how the aliens/monsters behave on that.Many aliens/monsters are out in high numbers on our road network systems during mornings/evenings (school run ) For the doubters amongst us you guys need to take a close look at our politicians for some strange and out of this world behaviour and even closer to home the wife as their logic and reasoning as to seriously be out of this world and from another planet live long and prosper regards Krull sorry John

[takeslousyphotos]

Me .............. I'm for focussing our efforts on locating the "Clangers" ....................

............ "What's that you say Tiny Clanger" ........... "Oh the value of Pi, Yes ...... "The number π is a mathematical constant, the ratio of a circle's circumference to its diameter, commonly approximated as 3.14159. It has been represented by the Greek letter "π" since the mid-18th century, though it is also sometimes spelled out as "pi" ........ "You are a clever little sausage aren't you Tiny Clanger......."

Peter

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[john i am]

One in the eye for the doubters [ATTACH]98143.IPB[/ATTACH]

amongst us here's photographic evidence what more proof do you need!!!!!!

[takeslousyphotos]

One in the eye for the doubters [ATTACH]99629[/ATTACH] amongst us here's photographic evidence what more proof do you need!!!!!!

........ and Britain's Biggest Glamour Model.

[flyjoe180]

If it was 3am, after a box of beers and much to eat, the stars are out, everyone is off their nut. Yep, now this conversation makes perfect sense.