Are you suffering from AMS?

[Guest]

All those kit manufacturers definitely have done their research, so I guess building it OOB should be fine and great. most of my builds were also OOB, after acquiring few experiences I tried PE and aftermarket decal and resins, but at the end of the day people that not in the same hobby couldn't tell the difference between super detailed and OOB. I really enjoy the process of finishing a kit, and this forum helps me a lot accomplishing something I think I couldn't do before.

[stona]

All those kit manufacturers definitely have done their research,

Not always very well which is why I agreed with John above that the rivet counting minority who strive for historical accuracy are so valuable. They really do the rest of us a favour in keeping the manufacturers honest.


Some manufacturers now consult within the hobby in an effort to create better kits. The superb 1/32 Cyber-Hobby Bf 109 E is a case in point and is the result of consultation with people who really know the aircraft and how to make models.


Had Trumpeter done that, then I doubt that my Spitfire seat would feature wooden planks


Cheers


Steve

[Guest]

For me OOB with odds and sods of extra PE, Resin or a very small bit of scratch.


I like building, I like painting, I like weathering, I like model making


Me a rivet counter no never not me.


But would never put some one off rivet counting if that's their thing let them do it and just stand and admire their hard work.

[Guest]

This is typical of this forum - we're such a tolerant and friendly bunch that there are lots of posts here of the 'each to his own' variety. I've clicked 'Agree' on some, but then realised I was in danger of agreeing with everything! It's a good point that some people made about appreciating the obsessive detailing and research that others do, and I have myself on occasion 'piggy backed' on another modeller's research.


For myself, I like to add/change/fix a bit of detail here and there, either to improve on the original or to fix an error, or just to make the build 'my own', but it rarely extends beyond the odd aftermarket component or set of decals, or a bit of sanding/filing/scribing.


I've really enjoyed this topic - it's good to see a discussion on modelling philosophy!


I don't know about AMS, maybe some of the folks here suffer from MAS (Model Acquisition Syndrome)...

[Alan 45]

I laughed Doug because I'm guilty of model acquisition syndrome

[eddiesolo]

I agree with both sides, the rivet counters do help in striving not only to get the best and accurate from their builds but that this also spills over to makers, look at the rubbish we had years ago compared to many models now. Also without them we wouldn't have new techniques and options to add or leave as we please-so are they good yes, am I one, no. I build for me and have found I am happy in just plodding at my pace doing what I enjoy, that may sound like I am not wanting to improve but is far from it. I just enjoy the level I am at, at the moment.


Si

[stona]

I build for me and have found I am happy in just plodding at my pace doing what I enjoy, that may sound like I am not wanting to improve but is far from it. I just enjoy the level I am at, at the moment.
Si

Me too. It's most important that you enjoy what you do. Everyone has different skills and abilities and most are striving to improve. The only way to do that is to build more kits, so what are you all waiting for ?


Cheers


Steve

[Guest]

Good advice Steve

[Guest]

What about wiffers I love nothing better than to make something not what it is, even then you can still add detail (I am a member of a club(Ipms rivenhall) and we have a gent who make science fiction stuff whose detail is incredible, and he spends a lot of time researching what he's doing to make sure it's possible. As a hobby you just can't beat moddeling. My son has just become head of history at his school and I've said to him you ought to get a modeler in to talk about historic subjects as they probably know more than any of your history teachers but he says oh we have to stick rigidly to the curriculum. I love this hobby and the combined knowledge of it.

[takeslousyphotos]

I just do the best I can........... I've tried PE and apart from the Vulcan Rotary Canon on my Viper I've ended up throwing it away ....... and resin bits I find hard work ....... So OOB and scratch building is what I do..

[yak face]

Thats a very interesting question Leo. Its something that I find myself guilty of (guilty , that makes it sound like its a crime!) , but not to the extent of counting rivets or worrying if something isnt exactly right to the nearest thousandth of a millimetre. What I tend to do is build to whatever standard of reference material i have , ie. if ive got a modellers datafile or very good walkaround pics on the web then I'll use the info contained within to try and make the model as close to the pics as feasibly possible , however if I cant get much reference material then I'll just go to what I'm happy with and looks about right. I suppose you could call mine TMI syndrome - too much information!! It all boils down to personal preferences and choice, if it looks right to you and youre happy with it then mission accomplished ,anyone elses views dont matter -its not their model! As John says its good to see everyones different take on building , its a bit like artists ,ask constable , monet and dali to paint the same scene and youre going to get three very different interpretations but all would be valid ,just because theyre all different doesnt mean theres a right or wrong. Anyway im off now , busy re-scribing the tyre tread pattern on the b58 hustler there were only 25 zig zags and there should have been 26.

[stona]

I just do the best I can........... I've tried PE and apart from the Vulcan Rotary Canon on my Viper I've ended up throwing it away ....... and resin bits I find hard work ....... So OOB and scratch building is what I do..

And there's nothing wrong with that at all. I do quite a bit of that, though on occasion I will use after market stuff.


PE features more and more in the box these days, specially on larger scale kits and is almost invariably a fiddle because it is usually used to create small parts which can't be molded in plastic. I do use PE when it comes as part of the kit, but don't always use every bit. I built something with tiny (1-2mm) long PE levers in the cockpit and eventually gave up on most of them. Guess what? Nobody noticed


Resin too usually needs a lot of work and I'm talking about well cast quality parts from reputable sources. I've used resin from Barracuda and Greymatter recently, all was good stuff and well made, but I still spent hours cutting, filing and sanding to make it all fit properly. This is NOT a criticism of any of those products, in fact I'd recommend them, but you can't expect resin to just drop in.


Cheers


Steve

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Those Aftermaket PE, Resin stuffs are more for personal satisfaction I suppose, unless you build for a contest, then like Steve said nobody would notice.