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  • takeslousyphotos
    • Apr 2013
    • 3900

    #16
    Wow ........ That's scary. Glad you are on the mend Ray.

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      #17
      Thanks for all the replies folks I am on the mend now but need to keep an eye on my blood oxygen as it is still not right I use a 3m mask and ventilation but apparently that is still not enough I was told it was benzene or similar that caused it mainly and comes from certain paints Inc acrylics, the thing is it builds up slowly with no warnings until one day your body has had enough so no model building for me for at least a fortnight.

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        #18
        Hope you feel better mate. I normally work in the garage with the back garage open, so it flows through. That way the fumes don't hang around


        John

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        • grumpa
          • Jan 2015
          • 6142

          #19
          This is what I use, and I don't even use an airbrush[ATTACH]116065.IPB[/ATTACH]

          glad your feeling better and remember guys, "lets be careful out there"
          Attached Files

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          • flyjoe180
            SMF Supporters
            • Jan 2012
            • 12463
            • Joe
            • Earth

            #20
            Hope you're on the mend Ray. A good precautionary reminder to us all.

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              #21
              Originally posted by \
              Thanks for all the replies folks I am on the mend now but need to keep an eye on my blood oxygen as it is still not right I use a 3m mask and ventilation but apparently that is still not enough I was told it was benzene or similar that caused it mainly and comes from certain paints Inc acrylics, the thing is it builds up slowly with no warnings until one day your body has had enough so no model building for me for at least a fortnight.
              Do they say that you recover well and it gets back out of your system?

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                #22
                Originally posted by \
                Thanks for all the replies folks I am on the mend now but need to keep an eye on my blood oxygen as it is still not right I use a 3m mask and ventilation but apparently that is still not enough I was told it was benzene or similar that caused it mainly and comes from certain paints Inc acrylics, the thing is it builds up slowly with no warnings until one day your body has had enough so no model building for me for at least a fortnight.
                Hi Ray, glad you are on the mend mate. I have Emphysema & my lungs are only working at less than 20% what they should be & I have to go on oxygen for several hours a day, Even when modelling lol.


                I use a Pulse Oximeter like they use in hospital to check my blood/oxygen levels which I bought on ebay if you do not have one, I find it very handy to check levels.


                I recently spent 2 weeks in hospital & in 5th week of recovery & the Mojo is just returning, You take care & just do things when you feel up to it don't push it...


                John.

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                • stona
                  • Jul 2008
                  • 9889

                  #23
                  Originally posted by \
                  I always use a 3M half face mask (3M 4255) with FFA2P3 protection.
                  Steve, do you reckon the protection level on this mask is OK for what we're doing?.
                  I use the same mask and it is designed to do the job we need it to do. DO remember to replace the filters, they have a finite life, even if you keep the mask in a sealed bag.


                  I believe that a good spray booth with good extraction, that is one that shifts a significant volume of air is almost as important as your mask. My 'Exagon' shifts over 350 m3/hr from my work area. It wasn't cheap (around £200) but what price your health?


                  I don't wear a mask for construction. My exposure to fumes from adhesives is very small. I work in a large and well ventilated area though I know not everyone is so lucky. I also replace the cap/lid on my solvent bottles in between use. This doesn't just reduce my exposure it saves me money as the liquid cements I use are quite volatile and I'd rather use them to stick models together than to pollute the atmosphere of my work space


                  Cheers


                  Steve

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                  • Guest

                    #24
                    Originally posted by \
                    Hi Ray, glad you are on the mend mate. I have Emphysema & my lungs are only working at less than 20% what they should be & I have to go on oxygen for several hours a day, Even when modelling lol.
                    I use a Pulse Oximeter like they use in hospital to check my blood/oxygen levels which I bought on ebay if you do not have one, I find it very handy to check levels.


                    I recently spent 2 weeks in hospital & in 5th week of recovery & the Mojo is just returning, You take care & just do things when you feel up to it don't push it...


                    John.
                    I have a blood oxygen meter at home so keeping an eye on it its currently hovering around 90-91%

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                    • Guest

                      #25
                      Originally posted by \
                      I use a face mask designed to filter fumes for short painting sessions. For longer spraying I have got a full face mask with filter on belt which provides fresh air over your face.
                      Where does that fresh air come from? The room?!

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by \
                        Well just a small caution I ended up in hospital with a thing called methemoglobinemia.
                        This I


                        Was due to a gradual build up from paint fumes glue etc due to model making even with a mask on.


                        It was so serious I was blue in colour and very ill indeed I was told that if I had slightly higher readings than I had I might have died subsequently I have now got liver function problems and ended up in hospital for a week so take care folks.
                        What was the solvent/chemical that you were breathing? Enamels, acrylics, cellulose thinnners, ....?

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                        • stona
                          • Jul 2008
                          • 9889

                          #27
                          There are many things that can cause methemoglobinemia, which is essentially a blood disorder, and many have nothing to do with model making. I'm not a doctor so I won't say more than that


                          Cheers


                          Steve

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                          • Paul Davies
                            SMF Supporters
                            • Apr 2014
                            • 284

                            #28
                            Originally posted by \
                            Where does that fresh air come from? The room?!
                            The fresh air comes from a filter unit on a belt. Put a link in a previous post to show what I use

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                              #29
                              The blood test recorded benzene amongst another chemical so the hospital has put it down to my model making as that's the only place I could have got this into my system so they say some sort of adhesive or paint etc

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by \
                                I have a blood oxygen meter at home so keeping an eye on it its currently hovering around 90-91%
                                Just sat in a chair watching tv & without oxygen im about the same, but drops to 85-83 if active.

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