Somthing to be said about our goverment

[Guest]

Well, I invite you all to come see how things are dome in Africa. We had the old school guys like Mandela that truly wanted and got freedom for all 20 odd years ago. Now the last few years it is a "get all we can before we get out and screw the rest" attitude from the gov.


Billions have gone missing, noone ever is punnished, heck the prez got upgrades to his house worth 1/4 Bill ZAR and does not have to pay a cent as "he didn't know about the expences"


Theuns

[grumpa]

Well, I invite you all to come see how things are dome in Africa. We had the old school guys like Mandela that truly wanted and got freedom for all 20 odd years ago. Now the last few years it is a "get all we can before we get out and screw the rest" attitude from the gov.
Billions have gone missing, noone ever is punnished, heck the prez got upgrades to his house worth 1/4 Bill ZAR and does not have to pay a cent as "he didn't know about the expences"


Theuns

So sad to hear Theuns, Welcome to "Politics American Style" I deeply regret our virus reaching your shores What was once "The Jewel" of the African continent has fallen to the mighty {but fragile gas giant} of political correctness which only needs the pin prick of common sense to pop. Sadly we've not the brave knight to wield such a weapon............or do weo_O


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[Guest]

I would say it has been like that for dacades here in Africa, almost all of the former colonial countries have gone the same route. They fought for freedom, got it and then only enrich themselves at the great cost of the masses.


They might have had good intentions in the biginning but absolute power corrupst absolutely.


Theuns

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Can of worms, very big I think is open wide. Hmmm?


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[grumpa]

I would say it has been like that for dacades here in Africa, almost all of the former colonial countries have gone the same route. They fought for freedom, got it and then only enrich themselves at the great cost of the masses.
They might have had good intentions in the biginning but absolute power corrupst absolutely.


Theuns

Ahh...the sad story of humankind ie.....Cain and Able. Able is good, Cain is evil. Cain kills Able............oh.......that's all..........Jim

[Wong Ryan]

come to malaysia...it is even more "eventful"

Well, I invite you all to come see how things are dome in Africa. We had the old school guys like Mandela that truly wanted and got freedom for all 20 odd years ago. Now the last few years it is a "get all we can before we get out and screw the rest" attitude from the gov.
Billions have gone missing, noone ever is punnished, heck the prez got upgrades to his house worth 1/4 Bill ZAR and does not have to pay a cent as "he didn't know about the expences"


Theuns

[Guest]

Actually I have gained a lot of information from this thread. Despite the fact that it is political in many respects it is not confrontational. Just shows that politics can be discussed in a good humour and manner.


Always been surprised that forums and people veer away from one of the important things of our lives. Politics is the policies we adopt to run our lives. Many decry the Houses of Parliament but debates are made in the best of ways. Question time serious and a bit of fun very British. Politics at its best. Better than those concerns around the World where all sit miserably looking at each other without any fun.


Also from this thread I have had a good number of burst of laughter. At times just damn funny.


Laurie

[grumpa]

Actually I have gained a lot of information from this thread. Despite the fact that it is political in many respects it is not confrontational. Just shows that politics can be discussed in a good humour and manner.
Always been surprised that forums and people veer away from one of the important things of our lives. Politics is the policies we adopt to run our lives. Many decry the Houses of Parliament but debates are made in the best of ways. Question time serious and a bit of fun very British. Politics at its best. Better than those concerns around the World where all sit miserably looking at each other without any fun.


Also from this thread I have had a good number of burst of laughter. At times just damn funny.


Laurie

Very insightful Laurie, politics need not be frowned upon on the site as long as it is non-confrontational and respectful {of each other - politicians excluded} After all we're only bricks in the wall. Seems like things are boiling down to the basics now - good vs evil - the civilized world vs the savage beast - national borders dissolving before our eyes, all happening in rapid succession. The "Quickening" it's called by our more religious friends, never thought much of such utterings.. but now? I just don't knowo_O.... Oh!...saw one of those, correct me if I'm wrong - Questions to the PM by the House of Commons? - or some such. Very lively and boisterous, almost seemed a bit fun. Very unlike our House and Senate snooze fests, with one totally boring and obtuse jackass after another muzzling up to the trough, pontificating from their ivory towers, condescending down to us lowly unwashed vermin who in reality they despise

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Very insightful Laurie, politics need not be frowned upon on the site as long as it is non-confrontational and respectful {of each other - politicians excluded} After all we're only bricks in the wall. Seems like things are boiling down to the basics now - good vs evil - the civilized world vs the savage beast - national borders dissolving before our eyes, all happening in rapid succession. The "Quickening" it's called by our more religious friends, never thought much of such utterings.. but now? I just don't knowo_O.... Oh!...saw one of those, correct me if I'm wrong - Questions to the PM by the House of Commons? - or some such. Very lively and boisterous, almost seemed a bit fun. Very unlike our House and Senate snooze fests, with one totally boring and obtuse jackass after another muzzling up to the trough, pontificating from their ivory towers, condescending down to us lowly unwashed vermin who in reality they despise

Question time for me is great fun. No appreciated is that the speaker, providing the Speaker Of The Commons agrees, can be interrupted by another MP to disagree or not.


History is here? I know of no other political place where there is seating left and right. Most places have a semi circle forum. Goes back to Cromwellian times where Lords and MPs sported swords and daggers in their belt.


The width between left and right gave those on each side sword (and dagger) room. Now it is only words and steam. That is except for Michael Heseltine ( known as Tarzan) Grabbed the Mace in some unholy debate and thrust it in th air. Loved it. Michael, still with us, had determination and spirit both of which are necessary in leaders.


Laurie

[grumpa]

Funny, our two systems. In ours you're stuck with a dangerous despot for four years at a clip, in your's you can throw the bum out but that can create constant chaos and confusion. Both have worked fantastically for centuries but the people {pols} have changed for the worst. Both forms of govt. require people of merit and virtue, otherwise it could be twisted and mangled into a grotesque apparition.


Other forms of so-called "govt" need no vieling for there is no mistaking their tyranny. Whom ever it was that said communism is dead better check himself for a pulse............Jim


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