Blazing row.

[Bigfoot57]

Like everyone has said well done for backing the lad also as previsusly stated eveybody has to start somewhere my 1st atempt was a airifx 1/72 f4j phantom in which get this i cut out the transfers and glued them in place complete with paper backing but i got encourgement for this from my mates at school after they stopped laughing etc even though i made a complete hash of it and that started a lifelong hobby which i still do now nearly 50 years and counting


Regards


Colin

[Snowman]

Where does the impetus for such kits come from?

The simple joy of creating or desire to build an object of beauty and possibly "perfection" if it can be reached.


Maybe I'm harsh in terming the individual as a "rivet counter", but a bit of tact would have gone a long way in preventing the situation from having occured in the first place. Senior builders, regardless of their personal level of expertise should know how to talk to the juniors without being condesending or otherwise.


My apologies for preaching to the converted, but this is one of the elements that make this site so friendly. Critisism is offered, but typically it is pointed and constructive.

[zuludog]

I've been thinking about this while I had a cup of tea. There's criticism, and criticism.... It could have handled much better -


'Well, when the glue blobs have dried you could have removed them with sandpaper or a sharp knife. Oh, and I've got a better paintbrush I can let you have.


What's your name? well Steve, I'm Geoff, and I was probably making kits before even your parents were born! Come and have a look at some of the other models.'

[Guest]

The simple joy of creating or desire to build an object of beauty and possibly "perfection" if it can be reached.

Well actually I meant that the impetus came from model makers who wanted technically accurate kits - those who might be called rivet counters


But if it came from simple joy, hopefully that'll be enough for me to win the lottery

[eddiesolo]

This type of behavior is seen in all walks of general life and in most, if not all hobbies. Most folk probably do not mean it the way it comes out and so ingrained in what they have achieved in the many decades of building, techniques learned etc that they seem to forget that when they started they probably made worse than laddo did.


I do not like confrontation but sometimes folk need to be taken down a peg or too just to get them to see that what they said was wrong and could have been more constructive, maybe the person who was rude may, just may think before opening his mouth.

[eddiesolo]

I think the idea of forums and modelling clubs should be the emphasis on trying new techniques to enhance your builds and get a better understanding to create better models that you enjoy. This is important but if folk either online or face to face crit in non helpful way then that has just negated the spirit of the hobby.


I agree with Patrick, it is the 'nerdy' modelers that have pushed for more realism and accuracy in builds that most of us now enjoy, still just cos your a super-ace-plastic-freak doesn't give you carte-blanche to be a berk.


 


Keep a smiling and keep a building!

[BarryW]

well done...

[Guest]

Well done Si , agree 100% with everything you said to that knob .


Richy

[Guest]

It is a shame that there are people such as this. There are some who say that this generation are not as good as in the old days.


For me this generation have the same enthusiasm and wanting to learn as all those that I have seen before them. They are just


a lovely set of kids. Getting aged I have found that to be generous with their help and polite. There are of course a very small


percentage that are not and always will be. Perhaps your opponent Si came from that percentage.


I hate people who ungrateful to these younger ones. They after all are those that will look after this chap in his old age. It may be


this young chap. Si your support for this youngster is gets my 200% support.


Hellcat

[Guest]

Well done that man

[grumpa]

I disagree that the problem lies with 'rivet counters', or indeed that such a person should be thought of as wrong or unhelpful.


We're all seeing, building & enjoying numerous modern technically accurate kits. Where does the impetus for such kits come from? The seemingly despised rivet counters! 

OOOO...I knew that "rivet counter" quip would get your goat Patrick but in your case we mean it in a loving and appreciative way ^_^ .......Jim