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  • Gwyn
    • Dec 2015
    • 399

    #31
    Very interesting I will look forward to seeing a price

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    • Thorbrand
      • Dec 2016
      • 335

      #32
      I haven't used any PE parts yet, still fairly new to model making. However the tool looks really well done and high quality. I think it would be a good idea, once you have a distributor, to approach a few model making magazines, Airfix model world, Fine Scale Modeller and Scale Military Modeller and get them to do an article on your item, i'm sure one of them would be interested in featuring it on one of their pages which would help boost sales and get people talking about it. I would think about patenting it before you go to a magazine, because if you don't protect your idea, it will be copied by cheap chinese manufacturers who can make them by the container load, but patenting is not cheap! and only worth while if there is a real demand for your product, if you are only selling a hundred or so a month, probably not worth the cost. Plus, if you wanted to sell on the product to a bigger name, such as Tamiya or Hornby you would need your idea protected to give it value. The idea behind selling an idea for a product which is patented to a bigger company is you can gain royalties and minimise or even completely reduce your overhead expenses because they take on the marketing, manufaturing and sales.

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      • Guest

        #33
        Still looking for a distributor, i wrote probably to everyone, i guess i'm too expensive for shops
        Sorry for my english, so it looks like a video.

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        • Robert1968
          • Mar 2015
          • 3596

          #34
          I will admit I'm tempted if the pride is right
          I have never used a pe blender before but pe does seem to be a popular additive in today's kits
          So defo interested

          Love the colour too

          Regards

          Robert

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          • jameshoughton1997!!!!
            • Oct 2015
            • 136

            #35
            Get em on ebay

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            • John
              Administrator
              • Mar 2004
              • 4659
              • John
              • Halifax

              #36
              Originally posted by Rafhart
              Still looking for a distributor, i wrote probably to everyone, i guess i'm too expensive for shops
              You haven’t contacted me yet
              www.scalemodelshop.co.uk

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              • Mr Bowcat
                • Dec 2016
                • 4616
                • Bob
                • London

                #37
                Originally posted by Rafhart
                Still looking for a distributor, i wrote probably to everyone, i guess i'm too expensive for shops
                You have been asked multiple times in this thread how much it is, yet still haven't answered.

                So, one more time HOW MUCH IS YOUR PE BENDER RAFHART?

                Bob
                Si vis pacem, para bellum.

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                • Mr Bowcat
                  • Dec 2016
                  • 4616
                  • Bob
                  • London

                  #38
                  Originally posted by Thorbrand
                  I would think about patenting it before you go to a magazine, because if you don't protect your idea, it will be copied by cheap chinese manufacturers who can make them by the container load.
                  Not sure a Patent ever stopped the Chinese copying anything.

                  Does make me wonder if any of the other PE bending tool manufacturers have a patent on this style of tool?
                  Si vis pacem, para bellum.

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                  • John
                    Administrator
                    • Mar 2004
                    • 4659
                    • John
                    • Halifax

                    #39
                    Originally posted by Mr Bowcat
                    Not sure a Patent ever stopped the Chinese copying anything.

                    Does make me wonder if any of the other PE bending tool manufacturers have a patent on this style of tool?
                    Looking on packaging of ones I already stock I would say none, I can’t see what could be patented on one, but then again I’m no expert in patent law.
                    www.scalemodelshop.co.uk

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                    • Thorbrand
                      • Dec 2016
                      • 335

                      #40
                      I was just thinking about all the manufacturers that make tools like hammers and hand saws. I dont think anyone has patented a hammer or indeed most hand tools in common use, so it would probably be very very difficult to patent a tool of any description unless it was very very unique. The PE bender is essentially a hand tool and this gentlemans version is just his approach to it. I know a lot of companies that cant patent their idea tend to opt for the tagline 'the original' or 'the authentic' in their marketing strategy once copies start appearing on the market.

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                      • Guest

                        #41
                        I did not think about the patent, I thought about how to build the models, do not really think about making money on it. Many stores tell me they will not buy mine because they have a very cheap other manufacturer, I am asking how is it possible to have a $ 60 -70 bend in the store? This is not cheap. Yes, but we buy for $ 20 - $ 25. The whole mystery.

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                        • jameshoughton1997!!!!
                          • Oct 2015
                          • 136

                          #42
                          So are we saying 20- 25 is goner be the price

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                          • Guest

                            #43
                            For such amounts of shops buy other types of folding machines, not mine my expensive unfortunately. And you will find a 20 cm long bend for $ 30 at the store?

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                            • jameshoughton1997!!!!
                              • Oct 2015
                              • 136

                              #44
                              How expensive what are you looking for

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                              • col68
                                • Nov 2016
                                • 1505

                                #45
                                Originally posted by Rafhart
                                I did not think about the patent, I thought about how to build the models, do not really think about making money on it. Many stores tell me they will not buy mine because they have a very cheap other manufacturer, I am asking how is it possible to have a $ 60 -70 bend in the store? This is not cheap. Yes, but we buy for $ 20 - $ 25. The whole mystery.
                                Hi rafal I've just been reading your thread and I'm sorry to say that it isn't a mystery you simply cannot compete with the companies who are already producing the bending machines
                                They have the milling machines on site and are turning out hundreds of these tools a week.
                                They buy there material in bulk so they pay less.
                                That means they can sell there product cheaper to retailers who then add their mark up price.

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