Hello community!

[Guest]

Hello everybody,

as I consider it for a matter of proper behaviour, I would like to introduce myself with the help of this thread.

I'm a 29 year old rc modeler living in south-west germany. I did rc flying for years, but stopped about twelve years ago. Now, as a friend of mine (he's a very good rc yacht scale builder) is learning rc-flying, I decided to join his attempts. For he is improving steadily and the feeling in my fingertips is also coming back, we decided to start a corporate project. A scale plane - respectively two.

I'm now searching for ideas for a plane to be modelled, but as you can imagine, it should be quite easy to fly (be sure, the trainer type planes we have under control) and not too difficult to get material and pictures.

While searching I found scale-models.co.uk and as there is no community like this in germany I joined.

Well, that's just a bit of information about me and how I got here, nevertheless I hope you got a slight idea of who I am.

By the way, if you have a possible plan(e) in mind, that could match my needs, let me know, please.

Goodbye for now,

Dirk.

[Guest]

Welcome, Dirk.

Unfortunately I am not an RC guy, so I can't really help you out. But you have definitely come to the right place. Lots of great resources in here that should be able to help you out. Good luck!!

Bob

[Guest]

Dirk a very warm welcome to the forum. As you may have noticed we have a wide rangining experience in our members and we are steadily developing an extensive range of resources in the form of tutorials and pictures.

Our resident aircraft expert, Wonwinglo, will undoubtedly have some suggestions for your model aircraft project and will also be more than willing to offer assistance and guidance along the way.

If you want something to get you interested have a look at Greyheads latest build thread of his SE5a.

Don't be put off though, non of us are up to his standard either!!

Most of all enjoy your time here and feel free to add your own input as you progress your models.

[Guest]

Thanks for the welcome.

To be honest Bunkerbarge, I've already found the SE5a thread and while I saw the pictures of the cockpit development, tears ran down my cheeks :thinking: I'm sorry but I can't tell you if those were tears of joy or of jealousy:shhhh:

That is truly the kind of work I like the most -- this rocks! :respect1:...and made me stay and post.

Greets from the continent,

Dirk

[Guest]

welcome, sorry i can not help, but im sure someone here can.

[wonwinglo]

Hello Dirk,and a big welcome here,you certainly live in a beautiful country which I visited some years ago when my daughter lived there for a while,she took me around some of your model flying club airfields complete with club huts etc and full sized airfields as well,there is certainly a lot of interest in flying in Germany.

Anyway getting to your dilemma,there are so many good designs suitable for learning to fly with these days it is difficult to know where to start ? but a good old design such as the Junior 60 takes some beating,they virtually fly themselves anyway even if you are a bit clumsy on the controls at first.

If you want to build from a kit then Ben Buckle kits used to do them,or a plan should be fairly easy to obtain,it is slab sided good old balsa stick construction,nice and light but strong,do a search on the internet for 'Junior 60 plans or kits' quite a few companies have done a kit in the past.

No doubt there are many other suggestions but that was the model that set me up flying many years ago.

[Guest]

Hello Dirk' date='and a big welcome here,you certainly live in a beautiful country which I visited some years ago when my daughter lived there for a while,she took me around some of your model flying club airfields complete with club huts etc and full sized airfields as well,there is certainly a lot of interest in flying in Germany.[/quote']Good morning wonwinglo,

thank you too, for the warm welcome. You're quite right with the "interest in fliying in Germany", but there's a big lack of interest in rc scale model flying or even building models by hand, brain and wood. Most of the models you see on our airfields are so called ARF or RTF planes. Most of the guys just know how to install an engine and rc components and after having crashed they always have to ask the oldschool modelers, how to repair their stuff. I'm quite often asked (e.g.) which glue would be best to repair a fuselage made of polystyrene foam.

:bigmistake:

Seldom you can espy wooden models which only can be assumed to be replicas of an original airplane.

Once in a blue moon one can see a completed cabin (most planes crash due to a missing pilot).

Anyway getting to your dilemma,there are so many good designs suitable for learning to fly with these days it is difficult to know where to start ? but a good old design such as the Junior 60 takes some beating,they virtually fly themselves anyway even if you are a bit clumsy on the controls at first.[snip]

I fear that I've put that into wrong words. We're scanning the sky (and the internet) for a real airplane to 'copy' as a scale model. We already finished the 'getting started' phase, so what we are looking for is a Piper or Cessna like aircraft (no aerobatics needed) quite slow, nice and scale like look whist flying... and if possible not a Piper (even though the Toni Clark Piper is a great piece of engineering. Perhaps you know an (quite easy to fly) aircraft where there is proper material available to build it up fom a plan (even with light changes) with nice details to make it look 'real'.

Best regard,

Dirk.

[Guest]

Welcome to the forum Dirk. I hope you enjoy your stay here. I have enjoyed my time here and believe me when i say this. These guys on here Know how to help people on here.

[Greyhead]

Hello Dirk

I’m glad you like the SE5a, but it’s certainly not a “first scale” subject. My brother is at the moment building an Auster from the DB Sport and Scale kit. I think it would be a good choice for you, try the link below.

http://www.dbsportandscale.com/auster-J1.htm

Grahame

[Guest]

Hello Grahame,

the Auster (haven't even hear of it until I found some pics about half an hour ago at wonwinglo's homepage) is certainly an idea to shortlist. What about the DH Leopard Moth? Could be an interesting variety to often seen tiger moths.

BTW: Is your brother documentating his Auster's development somewhere on the internet? Here e.g.?

Dirk

[Greyhead]

Unfortunately there is no build thread; I tried to talk him into doing one but to no avail.

Almost any of the high wing monoplanes from this era would make good subjects, but go for a plan or kit from a well-known supplier then you can be fairly sure that the model will fly OK.

[Guest]

Howdy Dirk,

Welcome to the forum, we are glad to have you here. Well, the aircraft I am about to suggest is one that will remain in my mind for all of my life. Back in high school, one of my friends fathers....a local dentist, decided he wanted to build an airplane. So, he sent away for the plans to build a BeDe5 personal aircraft.

This aircraft has a "pusher prop" and its other variant, the BeDe7 is jet powered and is seen at airshows around the US painted up as the "Coors silver bullet" (Coors Beer).

Anyway, my friends father built his "BD5" on his enclosed patio in their backyard.........not thinking about how he would get the completed aircraft "out" of the patio.

Needless to say about a year after beginning construction, there came the time to move the plane from the patio and of course the wall had to be torn out....even with the wings removed.

So, you might look over this neat little aircraft and consider it as a model.

I know that Minicraft currently has a 1:72 scale version of the jet variant for sale in hobby stores, but....me and minicraft dont get along lol.

Here is a link to somne photos of the plane:

http://www.bd5.com/bd01001.htm

Have a good day,

Greg

[wonwinglo]

The Bede BD.5 built correctly is a practical machine,however there are so many things that can go wrong within that it has never really had the success it deserved,for example the engine is driven by multi timing belts which need to be spot on and in line,Jim Bede should have set up his own production line instead of offering them as kits,the jet is something else and in the right hands is a little beauty,made famous with the James Bond film with the one in the horse box.

There was a company in the UK called Brockmore Bede that were agents for this aircraft at Shobdon,they had one unfinished in their hangar years ago.

Those USAF colours look really good.

[Guest]

First Scale Model

Hello Dirk and the others in this Forum!

I'm another German member being fed up with the foam waffles and ARF planes in my - sorry our country. I am from the north west - an area called Münsterland - and there is not even a suitable shop nearby. Even though there are some remains (like the Krick Klemm or the nice little Piper or Tiger Moth Höllein sells) it is true that there is not much going in in wood glue and brain - at least for a reasonable price. I would like to make another suggestion for a nice first scale plane that doesn't take too much time to build and must be very easy to handle in the air. I'm thinking of another D&B Kit that is the Corben Baby Ace: I'm just about to begin with the project - and if there is some interest in this plane I wouldn't mind starting an entry about the project! I will equip it with a fairly strong brushless engine and I want to have it as a somewhat bigger trainer (I'm already an experienced pilot of the 1:10 scale Piper J3 mentined above) before I also start the Auster. Like you I have just started to make model planes again after an intermission of five years!

I hope you don't mind another German in the Fotum!

Regards

Thomas

[Guest]

Welcome to the Forums Dirk & Thomas, Nice to have you both with us.

My first R/C plane was a Piper Cub done in the L-4H version and it proved to be a good choice too with nice flying characteristics and of course plenty of choice for colour schemes / variations too including the J3 version.

As for the Cessna's you could consider the 152 or the 172 or maybe even the 208. The 208 is not one you see modelled very often but is a nice looking plane.

An alternative to the Cub is the Christen Husky, very very similar to the Cub and just as nice to fly.....There are plans & Kits available for this one too.

Regards.......Mark.