We are all entitled to free speech, unless its not what people want to hear then your branded with whatever sticker they label you with. Everyday I am force fed things on the TV, films, radio that I personally do not accept or want to hear. Yet if I voice my opinion its me that's in the wrong and facing the consequences.
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Snowflakes I believe is the term my daughter's use.
Regardless of that you cannot be fired like that with out a full meeting of all parties , ie your union and the personal Dept.
I wish you well Dave, by the sounds of it your better off out of it ..
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Hate to disagree with some of this, but we do not (rightly) have true free speech in the UK, and probably not in all societies across the globe. We think we have, but we really don’t.
If we did, then rabid right and left wing views would be allowed to be freely expressed, such as holocaust denial, racism, overt misogyny, and other truly ugly viewpoints aimed at generating segregation and radicalisation. “Free” speech is limited to that which is socially acceptable in general use and allowed within the current legislative framework.
That aside, Dave’s case seems extreme and probably hinges on the contents of the staff code of conduct given at induction.
Snowflake is an abusive term I personally detest, by the way John. It’s use is generally aimed at someone with a different opinion to the abuser, and implies that the abused person cannot cope with the alternative viewpoint enunciated by the abuser. However, it is really a classic use of political doublespeak because the person unable to deal with the different opinion is the abuser themselves. If they could deal with the difference they would refute the argument rather than simply insult the speaker.
Those that use the term are basically accusing someone of what they cannot do themselves.
Anyway, enough politics for one day....let’s watch the news.....Comment
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That comes from the term “special snowflake”, as in, “you think you’re some kind of special snowflake” — implying that the subject/target thinks he or she is different but is actually (in the speaker’s opinion) just the same as everyone else.
The USA comes closer than anywhere in Europe, I think, but I must say that I prefer almost-but-not-quite-100%-free speech for reasons of protecting society itself from the kinds of people with extreme ideas who would like to use exactly that freedom to undermine it.Comment
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Some interesting ideas here guys, but I do not want my initial post to be the cause of any disagreements or arguments on such a tricky topic. Would I be considered to be curtailing your right to free speech if I suggested that maybe this isn't the right place, and there are other more suitable forums where this topic could be discussed?Comment
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I see quite a civilised discussion Dave, not argument. If only other web platforms could conduct things so well!!!Comment
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I absolutely agree Barry. I don't visit many websites, but of the ones I have seen, this is certainly the friendliest.
It was just my thought that this is a modelling forum and while a bit of banter is welcomed by everyone, maybe not all want the distraction of long discussions on other subjects - long discussions on the subject of Dunkelgelb or Olive Drab or panel lines on the other hand .....:smiling3:Comment
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I have to say that I fall in Tim's camp. This issue is NOT one of free speech but is one of someone in a position of authority allowing personal views to potentially influence their relationships at work. Authority position is the key here, since every teacher is in that position by definition. Having said that, I have to say that the circumstances as described, are very troubling as far as being dismissed is concerned, and I am sure that Dave could pursue this further if he chose to.
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