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    #1

    THAT Tiger.

    Hi Tiger experts, I noticed that my Friul tracks are for use with the mid to late model , on the Tamiya kit I have the option of differing sprockets according to the model being either 1943 or 1944 .
    I had chosen the 1943 model.
    the instruction booklet gives a date of 1943 as early , now confused if I fit the sprocket the tracks won't fit. If this the case I shall have to go for a later 1944 version.

    Any advice would be welcome.

    Dzhon
  • Si Benson
    • Apr 2018
    • 3572

    #2
    Hi John,
    From what I remember, tiger 332 was produced in March ‘43 and had domed sprocket hubs...( part number B10 )
    They started to machine them Flat in April ‘43.... but these aren’t included in the kit only the late star shaped hubs.

    Both types of sprockets in the kit have the same teeth configuration. I believe it had early/mid tracks (?) So either should work with your tracks? I used early tracks on mine because that’s what I had!

    hope this helps

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    • Steve Jones
      • Apr 2018
      • 6615

      #3
      Si is correct in what he says about the 332 being made in March 1943. They would have been issued with the early sprocket and early tracks which are these ones

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      You have the mid to late version

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      As these things cost a lot of money, you will probably want to go for the later version sprocket B3 and B4 (If the friuls fit on them of course) and just live with it or go through the drama of doing all the changes on the kit to make it a late Tiger

      Worms can open :smiling5:

      Steve

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      • Si Benson
        • Apr 2018
        • 3572

        #4
        Steve,
        it’s only the sprocket hubs which differ from early to late the teeth are arranged the same way on both so either late or early tracks should fit the kit fine.

        Only difference between early and late tracks was the late had ice cleats cast into them.

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        I won’t tell if you don’t John

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        • Guest

          #5
          Originally posted by Si Benson
          Hi John,
          From what I remember, tiger 332 was produced in March ‘43 and had domed sprocket hubs...( part number B10 )
          They started to machine them Flat in April ‘43.... but these aren’t included in the kit only the late star shaped hubs.

          Both types of sprockets in the kit have the same teeth configuration. I believe it had early/mid tracks (?) So either should work with your tracks? I used early tracks on mine because that’s what I had!

          hope this helps
          Originally posted by Steve Jones
          Si is correct in what he says about the 332 being made in March 1943. They would have been issued with the early sprocket and early tracks which are these ones

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          You have the mid to late version

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          As these things cost a lot of money, you will probably want to go for the later version sprocket B3 and B4 (If the friuls fit on them of course) and just live with it or go through the drama of doing all the changes on the kit to make it a late Tiger

          Worms can open :smiling5:

          Steve
          Hi Si and Lord of the South:smiling2: appreciated you both coming back to the aid of the none converted. You can understand why I like Russian armour, very few mods. I've always found the German variants confusing to say the least.
          I might there for go for one of the two later 1944 models, but didn't want to have to do that camo, but if need must then so be it. Suppose it could take place in Berlin if that was historically correct.
          Will make a start tomorrow,going through the instructions and highlighting the sections I need to be sure off .
          Thanks both of you .
          John .

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          • Steve Jones
            • Apr 2018
            • 6615

            #6
            Sorry Si I meant if JR wanted to stick with his desire to model 332 he had the later tracks instead of the early ones

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            • Steve Jones
              • Apr 2018
              • 6615

              #7
              I think the point we are trying to make John is that your Friuls should fit the Tamiya sprockets regardless which friul version you use. Are you saying that the friuls dont fit on either of your Tamiya sprockets???

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              • Steve Jones
                • Apr 2018
                • 6615

                #8
                There are cases of tank crews in October of 1943 when the new tracks came in with cleats, of changing them over from the older style tracks. If someone else can confirm this then you have your get out clause. Tiger 332 was given the new tracks in October 1943 and the crew changed them over just in time for it to enter your street scene dio???

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                • Guest

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Steve Jones
                  I think the point we are trying to make John is that your Friuls should fit the Tamiya sprockets regardless which friul version you use. Are you saying that the friuls dont fit on either of your Tamiya sprockets???
                  No Steve I've not tried them yet, I think I will stay with plan A then.
                  Thanks for the help, appreciate it .
                  John .

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                  • Guest

                    #10
                    Think I should change my name to Dzhon the Confused ! :smiling2:

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                    • Steve Jones
                      • Apr 2018
                      • 6615

                      #11
                      Its so easy to get bogged down with this finer detail stuff. Just crack on and enjoy the build and enjoy making that street scene as it will be epic. Also a big thank you from me and Si for joining in the fun and games of our GB. Now go and rest your brain and think of all things brickwork :smiling:

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                      • Mini Me
                        • Jun 2018
                        • 10711

                        #12
                        Whole books have been written on the changes to the Tiger I . Don't let it ruin your modeling experience here mate.
                        I really like Mr. Jones theory of the track change, can't confirm it but the chances it did occur at least once, I think would be enormous.
                        Moggel on, Rick H.

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