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  • Olivetti20
    • Mar 2020
    • 54

    #1

    Skill levels for model kits

    Ive just received my Tamiya 1/48 Focke Wulf kit,and as im returning to this hobby since my childhood i an quite surprised that this model has less than 50 components,whereas an airfix spitfire kit 1/72 scale seemed to have a simular number of components,i notice Revell have a skill level rating for their kits and i was wondering if other manufacturer's had skill levels and if so how are they rated.
    What i'm saying in short is,i'm paying more money for bigger scale kits yet the components haven't increased.Should i be looking at Revell or simular to have more bits for my buck!
    Thanks all.
  • AlanG
    • Dec 2008
    • 6296

    #2
    To be honest i pay no attention to the skill level. Some kits have more, some less parts. As long as i enjoy building it then it's skill level means totally nada to me.

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    • Olivetti20
      • Mar 2020
      • 54

      #3
      Originally posted by AlanG
      To be honest i pay no attention to the skill level. Some kits have more, some less parts. As long as i enjoy building it then it's skill level means totally nada to me.
      As ive never modelled since childhood,i wrongly assumed the larger the kit,the greater the pieces inside,Thats the downside of online shopping of course,you can't open the box and see whats inside.

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      • AlanG
        • Dec 2008
        • 6296

        #4
        Originally posted by Olivetti20
        Thats the downside of online shopping of course,you can't open the box and see whats inside.
        That's where YT in-box reviews come in

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        • Jon Heptonstall
          SMF Supporters
          • Apr 2018
          • 1704

          #5
          There are plenty of kit reviews on line which will give an idea of kit accuracy,ease of build,part numbers etc.
          Jon.

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          • Gern
            • May 2009
            • 9245

            #6
            It's not usually hard to find box reviews of kits online Gary. There's a site called Scalemates which lists hundreds of them but it's not the only site. Type in the model manufacturer, scale and subject in your Google search bar - I think you'll be surprised how many reviewers there are out therer.

            As far as I know, Revell's skill levels are mainly based on the number of parts - but I may be wrong.

            Just a thought though. The number of parts in a kit doesn't necessarily reflect the quality. Look at some of the tank kits around with individual track links - even in 1/72! Adding 300 identical parts to the parts count doesn't always add to the enjoyment of the build!

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            • Guest

              #7
              Originally posted by Olivetti20
              i was wondering if other manufacturer's had skill levels and if so how are they rated.
              All these rating systems that manufacturers use are, if you ask me, simply numbers they stuck on. Some seem to be based solely on parts count, others on some arbitrary estimation of difficulty. On the whole I don’t think (m)any of them are meaningful.

              Originally posted by Olivetti20
              What i'm saying in short is,i'm paying more money for bigger scale kits yet the components haven't increased.Should i be looking at Revell or simular to have more bits for my buck!
              If you want the most bits for your money then you should buy tank kits, as Dave also mentioned: some of them come with a ridiculous number of parts for the tracks, which — I have to agree with him — don’t exactly add to the build enjoyment but certainly to the difficulty, even if it’s only through sheer repetitiveness.

              Getting value for money depends, really, on what you consider to be “value”. A Tamiya kit can be good value for money to some because, even though it’s expensive and may not have that many parts, it’s pretty much guaranteed to be easy to build — the value here is ease of construction. On the other hand, if you like tinkering with parts until they fit and adding detail that isn’t there, then an old Skif kit can be good value for money because of all the work you have to do, which you don’t with a Tamiya kit.

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              • PaulTRose
                SMF Supporters
                • Jun 2013
                • 6542
                • Paul
                • Tattooine

                #8
                Originally posted by Jakko
                Getting value for money depends, really, on what you consider to be “value”.

                couldnt agree more

                ive done kits that have had 30 parts or cost less than a tenner that have given immense satisfaction......done kits that have cost a fortune or 150+ parts and felt disappointed

                for me value for money is the size of the smile it gives you or the sense of accomplishment at the end of it all
                Per Ardua

                We'll ride the spiral to the end and may just go where no ones been

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                • stillp
                  • Nov 2016
                  • 8102
                  • Pete
                  • Rugby

                  #9
                  To add to that, some kits have a lot of parts, that fit together really well, so are 'easy' in the sense that you don't have to spend ages making the parts fit together. Others don't have many parts but the fit is so poor you need a lot of skill to get them together.
                  Pete

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                  • Olivetti20
                    • Mar 2020
                    • 54

                    #10
                    Originally posted by stillp
                    To add to that, some kits have a lot of parts, that fit together really well, so are 'easy' in the sense that you don't have to spend ages making the parts fit together. Others don't have many parts but the fit is so poor you need a lot of skill to get them together.
                    Pete
                    I feel i must swallow my pride and admit that since watching a few youtube clips tonight on model making,ive realised that there is so much you can do with each single part especially paint wise,that the kit ive just received should keep me going for a very long time.Its a shame though that i didn't order the paints,brushes,knives,masking tape etc etc.
                    Can't wait until this war is over!

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                    • Gern
                      • May 2009
                      • 9245

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Olivetti20
                      I feel i must swallow my pride and admit that since watching a few youtube clips tonight on model making,ive realised that there is so much you can do with each single part especially paint wise,that the kit ive just received should keep me going for a very long time.Its a shame though that i didn't order the paints,brushes,knives,masking tape etc etc.
                      Can't wait until this war is over!
                      You can get all the bits you need from John right here in the forum shop. Click on where it says 'Scale Model Shop' at the top of the page. His prices are good and his service is second to none.

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                      • Olivetti20
                        • Mar 2020
                        • 54

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Gern
                        You can get all the bits you need from John right here in the forum shop. Click on where it says 'Scale Model Shop' at the top of the page. His prices are good and his service is second to none.
                        Thanks for that although i'll have to be patient as delivery services are already over stretched so i'd hate to put more pressure on folk.

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                        • Guest

                          #13
                          After 50 years I am just getting back into modelling, so called a hobby shop for ideas and he asked me my "skill level", I said what's a skill level, he said it relates to the complexity of the kit you are working on. I said "have you got anything with four pieces", he gave me the link to Mattel..........
                          But seriously after 30 of those 50 years due to the panda maniac I pulled a kit down from the rafters in the garage. Revell Cutty Sark says right on it skill lever 3, everything I see that related to that same kit on this site says skill level 5, what now I am scared I probably can't build this............
                          I actually built this kit back in the 70's they didn't even know what a skill level was back then

                          It's an ambiguous number between one and five, just go for it,
                          remember there is no mechanical problem so difficult that it can not be solved by brute force and ignorance
                          But one thing I have found since I stumbled on this site is that there is a major lack of ignorance. Dig a hole as deep as you want, these guys can pull you out of it, run into a brick wall, no problem one of them has a masonry saw in his back pocket. Just ask a question, the answer appears.

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                          • PaulTRose
                            SMF Supporters
                            • Jun 2013
                            • 6542
                            • Paul
                            • Tattooine

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Gern
                            You can get all the bits you need from John right here in the forum shop. Click on where it says 'Scale Model Shop' at the top of the page. His prices are good and his service is second to none.

                            johns service is second to none......its royal mail thats the weakest link.......3 weeks now ive been waiting for a delivery of paint!
                            Per Ardua

                            We'll ride the spiral to the end and may just go where no ones been

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                            • Dave Ward
                              • Apr 2018
                              • 10549

                              #15
                              Bob,
                              well, what was 'Level 3' is now 'Level 5', due to the general decline in motor skills - if it doesn't come ready assembled - ( batteries included ), then a lot of kids are stumped! A product of our got to have it, and use it immediately culture.
                              I was brought up playing with my Fathers' Meccano set - no plans - just what your imagination led you to make - all those nuts, bolts, screws, pieces of holey metal & spanners..................... Power was from a gurt big clockwork motor - and when it (!?!) was finished you could disassemble it & start again. Kept me amused for hours/days ( I wasn't allowed near any alarm clocks - due to minor re-assembly errors! )
                              Oddly enough I was still playing with mechanical bit & pieces when I took up a career - just a bit bigger! - 18000 hp 6-Cylinder diesels!
                              Dave

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