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  • Guest

    #31
    There will be little difference which will only reflect in the additional importation overheads that may well not be absorbed. However, if like me, you occasionally buy direct from Eduard (the only way to acquire Overtree versions) or Special Hobby, every parcel will cop a £12 processing charge which I don't find trivial.

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    • Ian M
      Administrator
      • Dec 2008
      • 18272
      • Ian
      • Falster, Denmark

      #32
      An interesting subject. Living in Denmark I can still enjoy the "open market" I hope that Airfix figure things out as at the moment they are the only things I will miss out on...

      I suspect that a lot of "Gifts" are soon to be on their way to the UK.
      Group builds

      Bismarck

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      • BarryW
        SMF Supporters
        • Jul 2011
        • 6052

        #33
        Originally posted by Murfie
        There will be little difference which will only reflect in the additional importation overheads that may well not be absorbed. However, if like me, you occasionally buy direct from Eduard (the only way to acquire Overtree versions) or Special Hobby, every parcel will cop a £12 processing charge which I don't find trivial.
        Not necessarily. My detailing set from Russia, which of course is outside the EU and cost £30, arrived no problem and in the past when I have ordered kits from places like Hong Kong costing up to £100 there has not been an issue. I think I have been caught out twice over the years. There is no reason to think that you will get clobbered every time you order something from an EU country.

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        • Tim Marlow
          SMF Supporters
          • Apr 2018
          • 18994
          • Tim
          • Somerset UK

          #34
          But those countries may well have trade deals with the EU Barry. Once the UK leaves the EU we won’t be part of those deals and will revert back to World Trade rules until we negotiate our own. I must admit, everything seems a little last minute dot com considering this has been heading our way for a year....

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          • Guest

            #35
            The main point for me is that these other trade routes are already well established, where as our new relationship with the EU is completely unknown, so we can't make any worthwhile predictions based on assumptions that they'll want to trade with us in the same way as everyone else and that we'll accept it. Look at what's happening with fishing.

            On the other hand, logic suggests that in the end it will probably fall in line with ROW, but in the very short term we just don't know.

            What I'd like to know is where Boris' "oven ready" deal is...and whether it made allowance for hobbyists!

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            • Guest

              #36
              Originally posted by Archetype
              What I'd like to know is where Boris' "oven ready" deal is...
              My guess is it’s hot air.

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              • BarryW
                SMF Supporters
                • Jul 2011
                • 6052

                #37
                Originally posted by Tim Marlow
                But those countries may well have trade deals with the EU Barry. Once the UK leaves the EU we won’t be part of those deals and will revert back to World Trade rules until we negotiate our own. I must admit, everything seems a little last minute dot com considering this has been heading our way for a year....
                Tim - No, this is nothing to do with a trade deal. It is a matter of luck whether something from Hong Kong gets caught or not, sometimes I have been clobbered and sometimes not, and I am pretty sure that the EU dont have a deal with Russia,.

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                • BarryW
                  SMF Supporters
                  • Jul 2011
                  • 6052

                  #38
                  Originally posted by Archetype
                  The main point for me is that these other trade routes are already well established, where as our new relationship with the EU is completely unknown, so we can't make any worthwhile predictions based on assumptions that they'll want to trade with us in the same way as everyone else and that we'll accept it. Look at what's happening with fishing.

                  On the other hand, logic suggests that in the end it will probably fall in line with ROW, but in the very short term we just don't know.

                  What I'd like to know is where Boris' "oven ready" deal is...and whether it made allowance for hobbyists!
                  The oven ready deal was actually a reference to the withdrawal agreement not a trade deal.

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                  • Gary MacKenzie
                    SMF Supporter
                    • Apr 2018
                    • 1059
                    • Gary
                    • Forres , Moray , Scotland

                    #39
                    Sorry , he used the word deal , he did that to allow himself a get out.
                    If he meant he had an "oven ready agreement", that is what he should have said.
                    Boris writes a pro and an against argument for all things , then chooses one.

                    I will agree that sometimes he does pick a good phrase like ''f**k business" , he really has done , most still don't have enough info to know what import taxes will definitely be placed on goods coming in, and good companies are no longer sending things that will arrive after 1st January and incur whatever customs etc charges will be invoked.

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                    • Guest

                      #40
                      I really regret starting this thread ....

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                      • AlanG
                        • Dec 2008
                        • 6296

                        #41
                        [COLOR=rgb(184, 49, 47)]Politics is a discussion no no on here guys. Whether you like or dislike brexit/Boris etc, remember that or this thread will vanish very quickly

                        Any posts getting political will be deleted.[/COLOR]

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                        • colin m
                          Moderator
                          • Dec 2008
                          • 8862
                          • Colin
                          • Stafford, UK

                          #42
                          So it looks like we all might end up buying 'vintage' Airfix kits of ebay - see, every cloud has a sliver lining. :smiling5:

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                          • AlanG
                            • Dec 2008
                            • 6296

                            #43
                            Borrowed from another forum....

                            This is from Hannants:
                            'We will no longer accept orders from EU countries from 27th December. On December 27th our website will stop accepting orders from all EU countries. This is ONLY from EU countries. Please send us your orders as soon as possible! We will re-open the website to EU countries on Monday January 4th. The BIG difference is that all EU countries will then be Export countries so we do not have to charge the 20% VAT/Tax. OUR PRICES WILL BE MUCH LOWER! We will then be charging Export prices without 20% tax. Possibly you will have to pay tax and duty when your parcel is delivered but we do not know. No information seems to be available. Please be sure you receive our weekly Hot News sheet because this is where the more detailed information will be posted.'

                            This is from Ultracast:

                            To our valued UK customers:

                            As you may know, as of January 1, 2021 the United Kingdom will be requiring all companies outside of the UK to register and collect UK VAT. We have been attempting to register, however after many hours of repeated attempts, it would appear that the UK government website is not really set up to deal with overseas companies trying to register.

                            At this point, we are just unwilling to proceed any further, wasting time and energy trying to register to do someone else’s work for no pay. Perhaps, in the future, if the UK government is willing to make an easier process to register, we would re-investigate it at that time.

                            Therefore, as of January 1, 2021, Ultracast will no longer be accepting website orders from the United Kingdom. The UK government has decided that it would like companies in other nations to do their tax collecting job for them instead of doing it themselves as the parcels arrive at the border. We are just a “mom & pop” operation and don’t really have the time, energy or resources to become tax collectors for the rest of the world. By the looks of it, the EU will be next come July 2021.

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                            • Guest

                              #44
                              If Hannats had been smarter they'd have said nothing at all and pocketed the difference :tears-of-joy:

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                              • stillp
                                SMF Supporters
                                • Nov 2016
                                • 8137
                                • Pete
                                • Rugby

                                #45
                                Originally posted by Archetype
                                If Hannats had been smarter they'd have said nothing at all and pocketed the difference :tears-of-joy:
                                They should of course have pointed out that customers in the EU will be responsible for their own VAT and any import duties.
                                Pete

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