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  • Peter Gillson
    • Apr 2018
    • 2594

    #31
    Originally posted by rtfoe
    Why is it called the Siam Cup? Not Siamese origin issit?

    Richard - surprisingly; actually it is:

    The trophy is a large circular rose-bowl made from coinage of Siam ticals and required the permission of King Rama VI to melt the coins down. The King not only permitted it, he had the trophy created within the Royal Crown Silversmith

    It is beautifully decorated in traditional Siamese style, with figures of dancing girls and elephant heads. It stands on an ebony base and is engraved with the cup winner's names, dating as far back as 1920.

    The Cup was brought to the Channel Islands by Lieut-Colonel C H Forty, an officer based in Siam with the Durham Light Infantry. A fellow officer in his regiment was the son of the King of Siam. He was befriended by Forty and his fellow officers, and on eventually becoming King he presented the cup to Forty and his fellow officers as a token of their friendship.

    Forty donated the cup to the islands to be played for annually between Victoria College in Jersey and Elizabeth College in Guernsey (These are the CI equivalents to UK Public Schools). When rugby was no longer played by the two colleges it was decided that the cup should be contested between the two island rugby clubs each season, thus began the annual 'battle' for the Siam Cup.

    During the German occupation of the Channel Islands by Nazi Germany in the Second World War, the Germans wanted it to be sent to their homeland to be melted down and used as funds to support the Third Reich. Strangely enough the cup 'disappeared' and was not rediscovered until after the end of the occupation. To this day, there is no record of the whereabouts of the cup during this period.

    By the 1970s the trophy started to deteriorate from age and a replica was commissioned. The original was handed to the Rugby Football Union in 1977 where it is placed on display at the World Rugby Museum at Twickenham Stadium in London.

    Peter

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      #32
      Originally posted by Peter Gillson
      Nice & very interesting piece of history Peter. I like that very much.

      I am a Freemason 7 discovered that during the occupation of the islands the Nazis regime had this down on Freemasonry.
      Mainly as it was & is a society which is abhorent to the the then Nazis ways & similar to those of today.

      They ransacked the Masonic Temple in St Helier, Jersey. They made a mess but found nothing. Like the Rugby cup all had disappeared
      to wonderfully all appear after Liberation day. No doubt the same happened in Guernsey.

      Laurie
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