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    #16
    Just like to say & not forget.

    Britain was left on its own after the capitulation of France to the Nazi regime.

    The commonwealth many many miles away came to help Britain & the British Isles in their distress.

    Canada, Australia, New Zealand South Africa Indian and many others. This was done without being asked.
    They had no danger & were not affected in the way that Britain was. Yet they gave their all for us
    in Britain.

    Their aircraft & navies. They also gave their industries over to producing all the military
    equipment needed.

    However they gave us their military might in a human way in full & paid a sacrifice for us. We owe
    them our gratitude for their selfless way. Yes we do in full.

    I am a bit old fashioned but to me that is the best of British. The Commonwealth of Nations.

    Laurie

    As a matter of interest

    World population 4.3 billions. The Commonwealth 2.4 billions. quite a force

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    • BattleshipBob
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      • Apr 2018
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      • Bob
      • Cardiff

      #17
      I feel that Canada's support both men, equipment and money is not recorded enough.

      As usual why has it taken so very, very, very long to build the beautiful new memorial opened today, shame on all the governments since the end of WW11!

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      • Del640
        • May 2020
        • 1161

        #18
        The German cemetery is very sad, relatives and guests leave messages in a book at the entrance. Most were kids and ordered into the Military thanks to Hitlers 'Party and his savage SS.Click image for larger version

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        • Tim Marlow
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          • Apr 2018
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          • Tim
          • Somerset UK

          #19
          I never have thought we were left alone Laurie. Britain became the true league of nations throughout the war. As each smaller or less fortunate nation was conquered the remnants of their military forces came to us to continue the fight, and we always had the commonwealth nations along side us. As other nations came in as allies they too fought from our shores.

          Next time you visit a CWGC cemetery look around you. Commonwealth nation casualties have the same headstone shape, and they will probably all be represented. The many others you will see buried are from most nations of the earth. Each has its own particular headstone shape, some of which I’ve illustrated above.

          The true legacy of the CWGC is that all under their care are treated with the same respect, regardless of rank, wealth, nationality or religion. This includes the Germans that are frequently buried alongside allied casualties. In Laurie’s aerial picture one of those blocks of headstones on the right is for German casualties, by the way.

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          • Airborne01
            • Mar 2021
            • 4098
            • Steve
            • Essex

            #20
            Tim,
            To paraphrase a memorial to Christopher Wren, when in any military cemetery ' If you desire a monument, look around you'. I have never failed to be moved to tears by the sheer scale, wantonness and stupidity of the political will to enforce their agendas at the cost of their youth and talent. All are equal when laid below.

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            • Guest

              #21
              Originally posted by Tim Marlow
              I never have thought we were left alone Laurie. Britain became the true league of nations throughout the war. As each smaller or less fortunate nation was conquered the remnants of their military forces came to us to continue the fight, and we always had the commonwealth nations along side us. As other nations came in as allies they too fought from our shores.

              Next time you visit a CWGC cemetery look around you. Commonwealth nation casualties have the same headstone shape, and they will probably all be represented. The many others you will see buried are from most nations of the earth. Each has its own particular headstone shape, some of which I’ve illustrated above.

              The true legacy of the CWGC is that all under their care are treated with the same respect, regardless of rank, wealth, nationality or religion. This includes the Germans that are frequently buried alongside allied casualties. In Laurie’s aerial picture one of those blocks of headstones on the right is for German casualties, by the way.
              We were totally, in physical terms, alone Tim.

              However we had the Royal Navy. Hitler knew that as the brick wall he could not penetrate. At that time the greatest & strongest sea going nation.

              The sea our fortress.

              Laurie

              I knew it would come in handy one day. I had to study (under duress) Shakespeare's Richard the 2nd for my GEC literature.

              This precious stone set in the silver sea, Which serves it in the office of a wall Or as a moat defensive to a house, Against the envy of less happier lands,--This blessed plot, this earth, this realm, this England.”

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              • Tim Marlow
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                • Apr 2018
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                • Tim
                • Somerset UK

                #22
                Originally posted by Airborne01
                Tim,
                To paraphrase a memorial to Christopher Wren, when in any military cemetery ' If you desire a monument, look around you'. I have never failed to be moved to tears by the sheer scale, wantonness and stupidity of the political will to enforce their agendas at the cost of their youth and talent. All are equal when laid below.
                Absolutely!

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                • Airborne01
                  • Mar 2021
                  • 4098
                  • Steve
                  • Essex

                  #23
                  I am saddened to think we (as a nation) are now one of the principal global pariahs; all we have achieved, and the many unilateral benefits we have bestowed. are being subsumed to an adulterated perception. I don't want this thread to deviate from it's original intention and I apologise if I've been instrumental in that; it's only that I feel deeply the sacrifices our proud nations have made are in danger of being whitewashed out of history.
                  Steve

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                  • Tim Marlow
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                    • Apr 2018
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                    • Tim
                    • Somerset UK

                    #24
                    Just seen a news item that has left me a little perplexed......a children’s play area has just been unveiled in Gloucester that includes a replica Horsa glider for the kids to play on, apparently as a memorial to the glider pilots that were trained in the area....just seems a little surreal to me.

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                    • Airborne01
                      • Mar 2021
                      • 4098
                      • Steve
                      • Essex

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Tim Marlow
                      Just seen a news item that has left me a little perplexed......a children’s play area has just been unveiled in Gloucester that includes a replica Horsa glider for the kids to play on, apparently as a memorial to the glider pilots that were trained in the area....just seems a little surreal to me.
                      No sense of perspective - my instincts say ' Local politicians on a (good boy, choc drop!) exercise sadly :sad:

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                      • spanner570
                        • May 2009
                        • 15559

                        #26
                        Jeez, and all I wanted to do was simply remember all the brave lads who gave their lives this day in 1944.....

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                        • Lee Drennen
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                          • Apr 2018
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                          #27
                          Originally posted by spanner570
                          Jeez, and all I wanted to do was simply remember all the brave lads who gave their lives this day in 1944.....
                          Me too 570

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                          • rtfoe
                            • Apr 2018
                            • 9195

                            #28
                            Malaya's contribution to WW2 besides helping Force 136 against the Japanese were two pilots, Cyril and Henry Talalla brothers that were involved with D-Day. Henry was killed in action flying Typhoons covering the Carpiquet bombings and Cyril continued his flying career in commercial aviation after the war. I built a Typhoon from Henry's squadron after finding out about their story.

                            Cheers,
                            Richard

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                            • Guest

                              #29
                              For me, we all have different perspectives, I thought the Horsa replica in the chirdren's playground was OK.

                              Hopefully parents will tell their kids about that Horsa & what our brave fellow men did their bravery in France to secure the eastern perimeter of the canal.
                              Seems a an excellent way of teaching history. Love to see a Spitfire as well. Hope also the teachers will play their part in imparting the history of the Horsa.

                              I know as a kid at school in 1943 all the boys rocketed around the play area with arms flung out pretending to be Spitfires & Hurricanes.
                              All firing their pretend weapons. That has stuck with me as a reminder of all the airman who flew to defend us.

                              We also learnt that those Spits & Hurris, when the siren went to take cover in the school shelters, were up there with their pilots to protect us.
                              How did we know that cos our teachers told us.

                              I do believe it is most important to show the past. Our great history in being the only nation left in Europe ( Channel Isles as well ) between sanity & the Nazi scourge. That as a nation we stand for peace & fairness in this world. We are not perfect by any means but we are, in my opinion, a pretty good lot in that respect.

                              Like to add that I am English but now live in Jersey. Once Hitler started his assault a great majority of families in the Channel Isles left for England. The majority of the men joined the forces & fought for Britian & the British Isles..

                              There are two terrific books one written by a Guernsey man who flew Wellingtons & describes his time in Italy. The other a Jerseyman who describes his time in his mortar platoon in Normandy.

                              Laurie

                              Gee my problem i cannot stop once I get going.

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                              • Lee Drennen
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                                • Apr 2018
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                                #30
                                Well my thread went a totally different way. Was hoping to stick to subject but it didn’t. D-Day is over now and if the mods could kindly turn off the comment reply button I would appreciate it

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