Is "Scale-Effect" a myth?

[David Lovell]

Doe's it really matter does anybody honestly care , I don't lose sleep over it ,no one gets hurt ,I dont need to put my face of concern on , I've got better things to do than worry that there's a rivet missing or thoes are the wrong wheel nuts , let alone some saddo trying to tell me (us) that green doesn't look Iike that in what ever scale let's bash on with what we like doing best and flip them the bird.

[Isitme]

Doe's it really matter does anybody honestly care , I don't lose sleep over it ,no one gets hurt ,I dont need to put my face of concern on , I've got better things to do than worry that there's a rivet missing or thoes are the wrong wheel nuts , let alone some saddo trying to tell me (us) that green doesn't look Iike that in what ever scale let's bash on with what we like doing best and flip them the bird.

I'll have one of those, and raise you two 'do it how you feel'.
Well said.

[Guest]

From the point where an aircraft leaves the factory in a pristine state to the eventual disposal/destruction, the external paint colours go through all kinds of tonal change due to usage, weather, oil, etc., and maybe even a respray (or two) on the way. Some aircraft are even restored after their initial lifespan to be used again as flying machines or static museum displays. You won't see any aircraft at the Shuttleworth Collection in a heavily weathered condition.

So my point is that as a modeller you decide what sort of condition you are going to portray your efforts. As I display all of my models in a glass shelved cabinet, heavily weathered models look odd to me. So I opt for cart down, cockpit open (if kit allows), no pilot, and 'museum' type finish. If I were to build a diorama, my models would look quite ridiculous in one done that way (unless portrayed at the factory hanger door). Diorama realism requires appropriate weathering, some engine exposure perhaps and paint finishes that match the setting. For models depicted as flying then it's cart up, no prop blades, a well painted pilot and optional paint/weathering conditions.

It all gets back to one simple criteria. If you're happy with your work then it's been done well. For what it's worth I've built well over a 100 models and I'm yet to build one that I was 100% happy with. That's what keeps me trying ...

Superb summing up Murfie. Out of the factory, standing in the open for months In Afghanistan being blastered by sun & wind.
Even to the point where paint is stripped.

Spot on I produce only diorama so each is reduced to being in theater for many many months. They look patchy in reality scale
colour is not a consideration in such circumstances. I just study intensely the pictures of the real thing & it gives the clue.

I would not over do effects. That is not a criticism that is just my take on the subject. Again in reality they are an artistic licence.
Effects some where between a sober real photo & a painting which depicts the artists impression not real. Take your pick.

In the Falklands Conflict a different scenario. The Invincible had a spray unit. My bet is that the invincible Harriers looked in better
fettle than the Hermes types.

Laurie

[Guest]

Very nice indeed.
I can see your point on the painting to have a finish like the above Barry.

Don't know now having seen that what camp I'm in. One part of me agrees with Dave Lovell about its just a model and the other I'd like to be able to do that !

The late Simon T and I had numerous pm about 4BO paint, weathering etc sun damage /time expose to the elements ( Remembering the photo Tim posted )
now its reached a point where distance and scale has been mentioned Its a step too far for me. I shall just model on and enjoy, right or wrong.

[Guest]

This is my interpretation of colour etc.

I found a picture of a Seaking as in the field on duty in Afghanistan. This I copied from
a photo as best I could.

In fact there is no difference in reality to the colours. The effects are those which come from the original.

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[David Lovell]

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Very nice indeed.
I can see your point on the painting to have a finish like the above Barry.

Don't know now having seen that what camp I'm in. One part of me agrees with Dave Lovell about its just a model and the other I'd like to be able to do that !

The late Simon T and I had numerous pm about 4BO paint, weathering etc sun damage /time expose to the elements ( Remembering the photo Tim posted )
now its reached a point where distance and scale has been mentioned Its a step too far for me. I shall just model on and enjoy, right or wrong.

Yes John Barry's turned out a stunner but one completed a shade darker or lighter would have still looked correct and instantly recognisable for what it is ,dont under estimate your own modeling skills my friend , I enjoy looking at other people's work and if I think wow then they've inspired me to bash on with what I do but never compair it to my own. This has been a interesting discussion but blue is blue green is green if its in keeping who cares .DAVE

[The Smythe Meister]

OH MY GOD!!......
Guys,if EVER there was something to deter new modellers from joining the site,(Or others,actually!!),then THIS thread is it!!:dizzy:!
OK,it was a relative subject,and a few thoughts,in general,made it interesting for a while :thinking:.... but PLEASE ..... it`s a HOBBY,(Which usually means...."For FUN"!!).
It ain`t rocket science,and i`m pretty damn sure NONE of us are skilled painters ala Van ear missing,or Constable....:rolling:
So C`Mon Chaps,lets get back to what the majority of us on here actually LIKE,(That`s plain and simple modelling BTW).... I think this thread has BORED the pants off enough of us now,(You can see that by the amount of regular chaps that haven`t posted on it).
IT`S MODELLING GUYS....... GET OVER YOURSELVES !

[Guest]

OH MY GOD!!......
Guys,if EVER there was something to deter new modellers from joining the site,(Or others,actually!!),then THIS thread is it!!:dizzy:!
OK,it was a relative subject,and a few thoughts,in general,made it interesting for a while :thinking:.... but PLEASE ..... it`s a HOBBY,(Which usually means...."For FUN"!!).
It ain`t rocket science,and i`m pretty damn sure NONE of us are skilled painters ala Van ear missing,or Constable....:rolling:
So C`Mon Chaps,lets get back to what the majority of us on here actually LIKE,(That`s plain and simple modelling BTW).... I think this thread has BORED the pants off enough of us now,(You can see that by the amount of regular chaps that haven`t posted on it).
IT`S MODELLING GUYS....... GET OVER YOURSELVES !

Blimey Andy do you always write in code.

I like plain old English myself.

Laurie

[CarolsHusband]

It ain`t rocket science,and i`m pretty damn sure NONE of us are skilled painters ala Van ear missing,or Constable....:rolling:

Speak for yourself, I drew some ducks once.

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[Airborne01]

OH MY GOD!!......
Guys,if EVER there was something to deter new modellers from joining the site,(Or others,actually!!),then THIS thread is it!!:dizzy:!
OK,it was a relative subject,and a few thoughts,in general,made it interesting for a while :thinking:.... but PLEASE ..... it`s a HOBBY,(Which usually means...."For FUN"!!).
It ain`t rocket science,and i`m pretty damn sure NONE of us are skilled painters ala Van ear missing,or Constable....:rolling:
So C`Mon Chaps,lets get back to what the majority of us on here actually LIKE,(That`s plain and simple modelling BTW).... I think this thread has BORED the pants off enough of us now,(You can see that by the amount of regular chaps that haven`t posted on it).
IT`S MODELLING GUYS....... GET OVER YOURSELVES !

Amen to that O Guru - I wholeheartedly agree - (By the way my nickname is Stefano Carravagio!) - lets get the fun back on! What about - what colour is Olive Drab-?---SORRY!
Steve

[Guest]

Think this should be ended now people.

[Guest]

Speak for yourself, I drew some ducks once.

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Superb work I like that Dan.

Laurie