Thinking about prices...................

[Airborne01]

Please allow me this little,(non modelling related),rant,it is related to the core subject in a way though as I do like to munch on them whilst at the bench ......
How is it,that a box of my favourite biscuits,(Ritz crackers),cost me £1 last Thursday,then, on the Sunday,the SAME store wanted £1:50 for them..... The thing is,they hadn't had a delivery in the intervening few days,so the Sunday box cost THEM no more than the Thursday box?!!!.....
Surely that's just plain profiteering?
OK I'll get back in my box,rant over :smiling3:
Andy

There is a world of Del Boys out there mate - most of them are 'Captains of Industry' or Politicians ... They generally don't go short of a bob or two ...
Steve

[Dave Ward]

Please allow me this little,(non modelling related),rant,it is related to the core subject in a way though as I do like to munch on them whilst at the bench ......
How is it,that a box of my favourite biscuits,(Ritz crackers),cost me £1 last Thursday,then, on the Sunday,the SAME store wanted £1:50 for them..... The thing is,they hadn't had a delivery in the intervening few days,so the Sunday box cost THEM no more than the Thursday box?!!!.....
Surely that's just plain profiteering?
OK I'll get back in my box,rant over :smiling3:
Andy

Simple answer is, to restock the biscuits, the retailer has to pay the new higher price, no matter how much he paid for the original stock. The timing of the price rise to the public may seem arbitrary, but these businesses operate on orders that were placed months ago, there is a long chain from retailer to distributor, to manufacturer to eventually the supplier of raw material. In order to keep the stock flowing he has to pay the going rate - charging the customer what he actually paid would leave a shortfall - no cash flow - he's unable to buy stock - the customers stop coming - he goes bankrupt!, Each link in the chain is affected by price rises
Dave

[The Smythe Meister]

Simple answer is, to restock the biscuits, the retailer has to pay the new higher price, no matter how much he paid for the original stock. The timing of the price rise to the public may seem arbitrary, but these businesses operate on orders that were placed months ago, there is a long chain from retailer to distributor, to manufacturer to eventually the supplier of raw material. In order to keep the stock flowing he has to pay the going rate - charging the customer what he actually paid would leave a shortfall - no cash flow - he's unable to buy stock - the customers stop coming - he goes bankrupt!, Each link in the chain is affected by price rises
Dave

Not sure I agree with the initial point there Dave...
HOWEVER,I do acknowledge the "he goes bankrupt" bit....
He surely will,......simply because people know when they are having the "p*as" taken,and won't buy it anyway!!
Andy

[The Smythe Meister]

There is a world of Del Boys out there mate - most of them are 'Captains of Industry' or Politicians ... They generally don't go short of a bob or two ...
Steve

I know mate....
But this isn't a private a small time outfit I'm talking about....
It's the Co-op.... Supposedly claiming to "look after" their local community?!!....
Andy

[Airborne01]

I know mate....
But this isn't a private a small time outfit I'm talking about....
It's the Co-op.... Supposedly claiming to "look after" their local community?!!....
Andy

We all love a good joke!

[SteveH]

No doubt you have this catalogued as well Stephen, going to show this to management to convince her my stash is not great :smiling3:

I do John, I have just check ScaleMates and it is currently at 541 kits listed.
Embarrassingly, I have more hidden in the garage, as I promised myself I wouldn't buy any more after retiring last March 2021!
I really only put silly low bids on stuff that could be useful for future ""retirement"" builds, or might be an investment.
I haven't logged them yet but have photographed them, and am embarrassed to say there is a further 64 to add to the stash!
I will have to do much better in 22/23:tongue-out3:
Off to check my E-bay bids LOL
Regards
Steve H

[rtfoe]

You have more kits in your stash than my (not so) local hobby shop!

The main drive, excuse the pun, behind the sharp price rise is the cost of fuel. Everyone is taking a hit. The Manufacture of the raw plastic, the firm that delivers it to the model manufactures, The delivery trucks to the wholesaler, then to the retail, then to us the end user.
Its not just our hobby either. A trip to the supermarket makes that clear. Almost every thing rose by about 10p per item in the first week. Yesterday things have risen by between 30 and 50p.
I paid £92 to put petrol in the car the other day. Its gone up again since.

RM600 for a tank of petrol assuming an SUV takes the same amount of fuel? That's crazy expensive. I average RM100 for a full tank and we complain. I know down under the fuel prices are high too. :astonished:

Cheers,
Richard

[Guest]

Differences in fuel prices between countries are largely a matter of government policy: in Europe, fuel is very heavily taxed to add to the government’s income. For example in the Netherlands, 45.6% of the price of petrol at the pump is excise, with an additional 21% being VAT (plus, VAT is charged over the excise too). Other countries choose not to tax fuel very heavily, but — presumably — get their money from somewhere else instead.

[boatman]

RM600 for a tank of petrol assuming an SUV takes the same amount of fuel? That's crazy expensive. I average RM100 for a full tank and we complain. I know down under the fuel prices are high too. :astonished:

well Rchard how much RM 100 IN BRITISH POUNDS ?
chris b

[Guest]

You can ask that to Google: just type something like [ICODE]100 RM in £[/ICODE] (you can also use [ICODE]pounds[/ICODE] instead of [ICODE]£[/ICODE], etc.) into the search field of your browser and it will tell you. Oddly, though, [ICODE]RM 100 in £[/ICODE] doesn’t give the same result …

Anyway, it turns out to be £18.16 at the exchange rate at the time I’m typing this.

[rtfoe]

We get subsidised by the Gov. Divide it roughly by 6.

Cheers,
Richard

[David Lovell]

Going back to the beginning and the cost of the hobby even before the problems we are now all staring at some of the 35th stuff topping a hundred pounds ,im sorry but I just couldn't justify it for a box of plastic ,thoes looking to down cost should look at some of the 48th stuff I say some as a few manufacturers want the same money almost as 35th but the hobbyboss stuff good kits and great prices ,ok limited choice KV's with loads of diffrent turrets ,34's in diffrent guises but some with a full interior ,diffrent sherman types ,shop about somewhere between thirteen to fifteen pounds. If your sticking to 35th do you really need metal tracks loads of etch resin bits and bobs all adding up to more than you paid for the kit in the first place im not saying dont but I'm sure you know what I'm trying to say.
As most know I build mostly 72nd these have crept up what was a good for under a tenner is now probably pushing fifteen squids ,fifteen used to be a little treat somewhere about twenty was birthday or Christmas but fifteen to twenty is becoming the norm for the cheaper manufacturers.
If you fancy 72nd but want shake and bake stay away from the cheaper Ukrainian kits there good with link and length ,photo etch but you have to put the work in a choice of subjects 35ers would die for. Trumpeter 72nd ok but moulded on tools cables rubbish tracks ,early dragon 72nd not much better ,Revell stuff not bad but they now bandy about twenty pounds plus same with italliere.There's loads of choice out there but some price the same almost as 35th.
As for paint glues modeling tools etc you can't do one without the other ,unlike extras.
I'm currently building a Zvezda kit I have no problems with this as I've said before poor old Mr or Mrs whatever packing kits in boxes tring to make a living didn't ask for whats going on they've been imported and paid for any way, sorry to have bored you all to death lets hope the current problem in Europe end soon all the Ukrainian model manufacturers were making a stand for us all against the dominating Chinese company's. Dave

[Neil Merryweather]

3D printing maybe.....?
(.....flinches...) :nerd:

[Tim Marlow]

To be absolutely honest, this is a bit of a first world problem. Anyone with a stash is buying faster than they can build anyway, me included. I have several years worth personally. An increase in kit and ancillary prices just means we may have to buy as we build and stay away from the “ooo, shiney” The sharp price increases in food and fuel are far more important in the general scheme of things.

[Airborne01]

Love the 'Oh Shiny' comment! - I decided a while ago to bin 'things' I had no hope of building or displaying; instead I've decided to build those 'things' that, when purchased would give me a great deal of time, interest and engagement that relates to 'value for money in relation to time spent, plus final result, over initial cost(s) - and which I have space (and inclination) to display! Occasionally a mathematician emerges from my turgid frontal lobes!
Steve