Shortest Daylight hours..................

[Tim Marlow]

I haven’t looked into it, but I expect it follows essentially a sine wave? This because of the change being caused by a tilted body moving in a circle, so intuitively that would result in the change gradually in- and decreasing.

Definitely sine wave (sigmoidal curve) when graphed out. The “tilted” parts obviously move in an elliptical path around the sun, with the path becoming more circular at the equator and more elliptical at the poles, but I suspect the rotational speed of the earth comes into it somewhere…..

When you look it up, can you also look up Focault’s pendulum, because I don’t quite get how that varies in rotational time depending upon latitude….fascinating device though….

[spanner570]

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Dave

Dave, I need a drink. Can I pour you one?

[Dave Ward]

Dave, I need a drink. Can I pour you one?

Nope, just pass the bottle!
Dave

[Dave Ward]

Slightly along those lines - I met a flat-earther, in South Africa ( a genuine Boer! ), convinced that the earth was flat, no amount of argument could convince him otherwise - I was an officer in the MN at the time, and I just couldn't see how any sane person could believe this..............( having done several round- the-world trips ). What really floored me was his explanations for the sun rising/setting, and the need for an international date line. He spoke in English, but it might as well have been Klingon for all the sense I could make of it! I suppose drinking half a bottle of Oude Meester brandy didn't help!!
Dave

[KarlW]

Sure we have cats to prove the earth is a globe, if it was flat they would of pushed everything off by now.........

[minitnkr]

Just for the annoyance value,:smiling: Karl.

[The Smythe Meister]

Slightly along those lines - I met a flat-earther, in South Africa ( a genuine Boer! ), convinced that the earth was flat, no amount of argument could convince him otherwise - I was an officer in the MN at the time, and I just couldn't see how any sane person could believe this..............( having done several round- the-world trips ). What really floored me was his explanations for the sun rising/setting, and the need for an international date line. He spoke in English, but it might as well have been Klingon for all the sense I could make of it! I suppose drinking half a bottle of Oude Meester brandy didn't help!!
Dave

I can actually relate to that Dave!!
My Old man joined the Merchant Navy having left School at the age of 14 with no qualifications whatsoever back in about 1959,he was on Ocean going Tugs out of Devonport as basically a deck hand, spent about 10 years at sea if my memory serves ,
Thing is,when I started my apprenticeship in said Dockyard,in '82, discovering bikes,maids and booze,I asked him why he didn't drink at all. His answer was...
...Son,if you'd lived your life since a mere boy at sea, trying to keep up with the old lags getting hammered in port,mostly drinking various versions of Brandy/Wiskey, then you'd never want to see a bottle of alcohol again!!

[Guest]

Quite obviously the Earth is not flat, its shape actually approximates the inside surface of half a toroid:

[Mark1]

Dave, i recently deleted my tic toc account because of the arguments i was having with flat earthers! Some of them spent 20000 dollars on specialist equipment to prove it was flat and actually proved it was round and then said the equipment must be faulty,you cant win an argument with them, just say yeah course it is mate and walk away lol.

[The Smythe Meister]

BTW.. It's completely OBVIOUS that we've ALL got it wrong ...
THIS is what the earth really looks like....

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[Dave Ward]

I can actually relate to that Dave!!
My Old man joined the Merchant Navy having left School at the age of 14 with no qualifications whatsoever back in about 1959,he was on Ocean going Tugs out of Devonport as basically a deck hand, spent about 10 years at sea if my memory serves ,
Thing is,when I started my apprenticeship in said Dockyard,in '82, discovering bikes,maids and booze,I asked him why he didn't drink at all. His answer was...
...Son,if you'd lived your life since a mere boy at sea, trying to keep up with the old lags getting hammered in port,mostly drinking various versions of Brandy/Wiskey, then you'd never want to see a bottle of alcohol again!! :smiling3:

By today's standards, we all had drink problems, and I guess that most of us showed signs of neuroses and abnormal behaviour................ but no-one having told us this, we went on regardless.
The one event I can remember was what was called a 'sticky' session - it only occurred in port, for obvious reasons - usually a port with nothing worth going ashore for. A group of you would gather in the bar & each would select a bottle of liqueur, the top/corks would be discarded and you would proceed to empty the bottle -this could take several hours, and we would have dropouts, either unconscious, or nausea related. They'd be verbally abused until interest was lost............ I could manage Cointreau & Drambuie ( in shandies! ), but my downfall was Tia Maria! I was rather ill & had to drink tea for a week or so, as the smell of coffee made me gag! It all sounds very unhealthy now, but we were all pretty young, fit and doing a strenuous, stressful job.
Dave

[Tim Marlow]

Slightly along those lines - I met a flat-earther, in South Africa ( a genuine Boer! ), convinced that the earth was flat, no amount of argument could convince him otherwise - I was an officer in the MN at the time, and I just couldn't see how any sane person could believe this..............( having done several round- the-world trips ). What really floored me was his explanations for the sun rising/setting, and the need for an international date line. He spoke in English, but it might as well have been Klingon for all the sense I could make of it! I suppose drinking half a bottle of Oude Meester brandy didn't help!!
Dave

Dave, i recently deleted my tic toc account because of the arguments i was having with flat earthers! Some of them spent 20000 dollars on specialist equipment to prove it was flat and actually proved it was round and then said the equipment must be faulty,you cant win an argument with them, just say yeah course it is mate and walk away lol.

You’ve got to feel sorry for them though. Every year they have a huge worldwide Christmas bash planned in Sidcup, and for some unknown reason the Australian flat earth society just doesn’t turn up……

[The Smythe Meister]

By today's standards, we all had drink problems, and I guess that most of us showed signs of neuroses and abnormal behaviour................ but no-one having told us this, we went on regardless.
The one event I can remember was what was called a 'sticky' session - it only occurred in port, for obvious reasons - usually a port with nothing worth going ashore for. A group of you would gather in the bar & each would select a bottle of liqueur, the top/corks would be discarded and you would proceed to empty the bottle -this could take several hours, and we would have dropouts, either unconscious, or nausea related. They'd be verbally abused until interest was lost............ I could manage Cointreau & Drambuie ( in shandies! ), but my downfall was Tia Maria! I was rather ill & had to drink tea for a week or so, as the smell of coffee made me gag! It all sounds very unhealthy now, but we were all pretty young, fit and doing a strenuous, stressful job.
Dave

I'm not so sure it was really Dave,
Yes, everyone in the various military services,and also, some civilian life too,did drink quite a bit and smoked a LOT...
Easy for us to look back now and say it was so bad! ... I did all of the above,(and more so),but that's just how it was...no one seems to moan about the Germans on Pervitin WW2, or the Yanks in Nam being given Acid and blow?!!
It was just alcohol... Believe everything you hear these days and yo won't even drink Milk!!

[Dave Ward]

won't even drink Milk!!

Indeed, ask Mr Race!
Dave

[adt70hk]

BTW.. It's completely OBVIOUS that we've ALL got it wrong :sad: ...
THIS is what the earth really looks like....
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.. :smiling3:

Indeed!! No arguments from me!