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  • The Smythe Meister
    • Jan 2019
    • 6248

    #1

    Washes

    OK then guys, I'm gonna look stoopid here...(I know, it's not a surprise!!)..
    BUT,as I'm trying to develop my Wingy fing skills, I'd like to know about the panel line type stuff?!!
    I'm doing my Beaufighter in early WW2 camo,(DK Green and Brown),
    Question is,I was going to get one of those Flory Wash pots that I've heard so much about recently,so what one would be the best to get for said camo scheme please?!
    And also,do you put it on AFTER a layer of Gloss varnish as I'm used to?!
    ANY thoughts will be much appreciated
  • KarlW
    • Jul 2020
    • 1522

    #2
    Originally posted by The Smythe Meister
    OK then guys, I'm gonna look stoopid here...(I know, it's not a surprise!!)..
    BUT,as I'm trying to develop my Wingy fing skills, I'd like to know about the panel line type stuff?!!
    I'm doing my Beaufighter in early WW2 camo,(DK Green and Brown),
    Question is,I was going to get one of those Flory Wash pots that I've heard so much about recently,so what one would be the best to get for said camo scheme please?!
    And also,do you put it on AFTER a layer of Gloss varnish as I'm used to?!
    ANY thoughts will be much appreciated
    Not black, I used dark dirt on my Mustang and it seemed OK over the greys and green.
    If I was going over a white and black underside I would have to think a bit.
    Flory do an excellent video tutorial too. You can use a matt finish but it grabs the wash a bit more and can stain, which is useful if you want the effect.

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    • The Smythe Meister
      • Jan 2019
      • 6248

      #3
      Originally posted by KarlW
      Not black, I used dark dirt on my Mustang and it seemed OK over the greys and green.
      If I was going over a white and black underside I would have to think a bit.
      Cheers Karl
      You were actually the first person I saw on here who mentioned them ,and the results you got really pricked my interest ,was it your Mustang?! ... Not sure tbo but whatever it was,it looked very nice

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      • The Smythe Meister
        • Jan 2019
        • 6248

        #4
        Also..
        Do you put the Decals on before the wash,or after them?!!

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        • KarlW
          • Jul 2020
          • 1522

          #5
          Originally posted by The Smythe Meister
          Cheers Karl :smiling3:
          You were actually the first person I saw on here who mentioned them ,and the results you got really pricked my interest ,was it your Mustang?! ... Not sure tbo but whatever it was,it looked very nice :smiling3:
          Yes the Mustang, and also finished a Wildcat using it too. Only have the one pot at the moment but will likely add a few more colours to better suit base colours.

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          • KarlW
            • Jul 2020
            • 1522

            #6
            Originally posted by The Smythe Meister
            Also..
            Do you put the Decals on before the wash,or after them?!!
            Decalled up, then gloss coat, then wash. Useful to leave ordnance, drop tanks etc off and do them seperately.

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            • The Smythe Meister
              • Jan 2019
              • 6248

              #7
              Originally posted by KarlW
              Decalled up, then gloss coat, then wash. Useful to leave ordnance, drop tanks etc off and do them seperately.
              Thanks mate,
              Great info, appreciated

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              • AlanG
                • Dec 2008
                • 6296

                #8
                As Karl said i would get the Dark Dirt wash. I have four of them. Light Dirt, Dark Dirt, Black and Rust. Stay clear of the rust. It's pants. But all the others have their uses. The light dirt was used on the black camo on my Bf109 nightfighter and came out very well imho.

                99% of the time i use over a gloss varnish with decals added before the varnish. That way you can weather on top of the decals too.

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                • Tim Marlow
                  • Apr 2018
                  • 18940
                  • Tim
                  • Somerset UK

                  #9
                  Not used flory washes, but I’ve done it quite a few times with oil paints…..for early war scheme I’d go with a dark brown. In oils I mix burnt umber and black about fifty fifty……for the sky undersides I’d go with indigo. For a silver aircraft paynes grey works well.
                  I always do the decals and seal them with varnish before panel lining. I also try to get them to sit properly into the panel lines before using the wash. Nothing looks worse to me than a panel line that stops and starts either side of a decal. It just screams “model”.

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                  • The Smythe Meister
                    • Jan 2019
                    • 6248

                    #10
                    Thanks guys..
                    .. despite being very confident with my Tanky builds....
                    ... I'm a bit out on a limb with this wingy stuff!!

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                    • adt70hk
                      SMF Supporters
                      • Sep 2019
                      • 10435

                      #11
                      Andy,

                      I used dark dirt on my Mossie.. make sure you watch the video first though.

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                      • The Smythe Meister
                        • Jan 2019
                        • 6248

                        #12
                        .... Typical!!
                        It would appear that word has got out...
                        ... Can't find any "Dark Dirt" anywhere!!

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                        • Guest

                          #13
                          Great product to use Andy, the beauty being able to wash it off is its wrong was one of the reasons I got it . Someone on here recommended it .

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                          • langy71
                            • Apr 2018
                            • 1955
                            • Chris
                            • Nottingham

                            #14
                            Here you go Andy,

                            panel liney washy stuff

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                            • rtfoe
                              • Apr 2018
                              • 9114

                              #15
                              Andy, I use good old water colors with a dash of washing detergent and is goes on matt or gloss surfaces. The detergent breaks the surface tension and allows the paint to flow and stick to the surface. Black and brown mixture is what I use and after it has dried simply wipe off the excess similar to what you do with Flory washes and seal the same with a layer of varnish of choice.
                              As mention by the others decal and seal before applying the wash.
                              The water color wash can be used for oil stains, mud splatter and rain streaks.
                              Enjoy doing your laundry. :tears-of-joy:

                              Cheers,
                              Wabble

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