Lancaster Bomber

[Guest]

Has anyone seen the advert on TV about a magazine that provides parts to build the lancaster. It looks great, dont be fooled into waisting you monet though gang. The first issue is 50p and then every other issue is £4.95, sounds a bargain. Now if you do the maths £4.95 X 125 issues = £623.75. I can build a 1/8th scale non flying beast for that much. What a con. I think that some of you guys had a similar thing with the red barron and it proved to be a nighmare.

Just a word of caution. I know it looks good and it is a great plane, but you guys can pick up a kit for a fraction of the price from your usual resources im sure.

Any one have the same views.

Andy

[Centurion3RTR]

Seen the ad and it's beautiful but, at £625 for the complete collection it's not for me (the wife would kill me). It would be a waste money for me too because i'd just build the airframe, have the engines on display then super detail it, ie all the cables, control surface the lot.

I just can't wait for you Andy to build one, hint hint.

John.

[Guest]

Yes.

I feel the same way Andy, its a con. I saw a similar thing for a "build your own" rc car in a magazine. I had a look on a couple of websites and found the exact same car for 1/5th of the price.

But i suppose thats how they make there money.

Tom

[Guest]

Seen the ad and it's beautiful but, at £625 for the complete collection it's not for me (the wife would kill me). It would be a waste money for me too because i'd just build the airframe, have the engines on display then super detail it, ie all the cables, control surface the lot.I just can't wait for you Andy to build one, hint hint.

John.

I have thought about it mate and maybe it will be the next after the B25. I think i will build this one and stick it in the shop for sale and then do the Lancaster. You might get your wish yet mate.

Cheers

Andy

[Guest]

Yes.I feel the same way Andy, its a con. I saw a similar thing for a "build your own" rc car in a magazine. I had a look on a couple of websites and found the exact same car for 1/5th of the price.

But i suppose thats how they make there money.

Tom

Yep Tom, what a fortune they would make too. The profit alone would be enough to buy a Lancaster if it takes off, pardon the pun.

Andy

[Guest]

i do agree with u all......last time i got the bismarck from hachette....it waste of money and what is the point to buy it........so tht why they make money themselves......not nice

[stona]

Bloody hell - a new, full size one only cost the equivalent, in today's money, Of £1.5 million!!!!!

I'll be sticking to plastic.

Steve

[Guest]

Bloody hell - a new, full size one only cost the equivalent, in today's money, Of £1.5 million!!!!!I'll be sticking to plastic.

Steve

yes i agree with u......they are mad...want take monies from us,,,,same as bismarck......when i make bismarck from hachette...then my mate told me tht he got bismarck same as mine but brought from model shop cheaper!!!! so tht why i stick to plastic kits but if people want tht plane..tht fine.....but i got GUILLOWS plane....p-40 warhawk...everything in the box for £10!!!!! sound good.........it make out balsa woods......

my another mate make bismarck from hachette then he give up coz too much monies..........crazy world of HACHETTE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:angel:

ANY comments....................?????

[Guest]

Hi All,

I will certainly agree with the other posts on here. The magazine builds seem very attractive at first giving you all the parts and a build guide in the magazine to start with.

Trouble is the newsagents will stop stocking the magazine after a certain number of issues, unless it is a good seller for them, so you then are stuck to subscribing to the mag and that is where the cost factor comes in. If you do your homework and search online, you will find many of the parts supplied on these mags much cheaper elsewhere

The models carried by these magazines are usually discontinued models so you have to weigh that up in getting replacement parts where necessary. The Mags are making a profit out of this whereas you could go on ebay and save a fortune on a complete model (I have been there and done it !!)

I will admit I did start buying the initial mags of the RC Nitro Racer till I discovered what car it was and then stopped buying the issues. The mags I bought are useful for the painting tips and the parts from these have gone to good use on an existing older car, so they are not wasted.

Where possible I would rather buy a set of plans, study them and then buy my own materials and cut out my own bits. At the end of the day I can truly say I built that model (At a lot less cost than the mags too !!)

Regards.........Mark.

[Guest]

Hi All,I will certainly agree with the other posts on here. The magazine builds seem very attractive at first giving you all the parts and a build guide in the magazine to start with.

Trouble is the newsagents will stop stocking the magazine after a certain number of issues, unless it is a good seller for them, so you then are stuck to subscribing to the mag and that is where the cost factor comes in. If you do your homework and search online, you will find many of the parts supplied on these mags much cheaper elsewhere

The models carried by these magazines are usually discontinued models so you have to weigh that up in getting replacement parts where necessary. The Mags are making a profit out of this whereas you could go on ebay and save a fortune on a complete model (I have been there and done it !!)

I will admit I did start buying the initial mags of the RC Nitro Racer till I discovered what car it was and then stopped buying the issues. The mags I bought are useful for the painting tips and the parts from these have gone to good use on an existing older car, so they are not wasted.

Where possible I would rather buy a set of plans, study them and then buy my own materials and cut out my own bits. At the end of the day I can truly say I built that model (At a lot less cost than the mags too !!)

Regards.........Mark.

tht is very interesting mate....!!!!! so i will stick tht guillow planes....so i got bismarck from hachette but give up on part 67!!!!!......cant afford it.....but still have tht full hull with 3 top planking on it.....so tht why i stop making it....til full hull.....

wanting to sell it but i need 1-200 plan for bismarck coz need to scatchbuilt on top where gun turrets is....anyone know i mite get full 1-200 plan?

go to Build the Bismarck and see gallery of people making bismarck.....keep looking down to see my nickname spiderman......my bismarck photos in on the glass table in the living room....ok,if cant find it i will post photos here ok................

[Guest]

Has anyone seen the advert on TV about a magazine that provides parts to build the lancaster. It looks great, dont be fooled into waisting you monet though gang. The first issue is 50p and then every other issue is £4.95, sounds a bargain. Now if you do the maths £4.95 X 125 issues = £623.75. I can build a 1/8th scale non flying beast for that much. What a con. I think that some of you guys had a similar thing with the red barron and it proved to be a nighmare.Just a word of caution. I know it looks good and it is a great plane, but you guys can pick up a kit for a fraction of the price from your usual resources im sure.

Any one have the same views.

Andy

I bought the first issue as it was only £0.50p having no intention to buy the rest. Even if you don't build the nose sect that the first part comes with, the propeller and 500 pdr bombs that also come with it are worth it alone. I'm currently building (as I type) the nose section as I felt it would make a nice display piece.

[Guest]

regarding the expensive model

hey Andy,

i'm from South Africa, and we have the same model of the lancaster kit here, this is the first time i ever done a model like this spesific one, and i'm realy impressed by the quality and detail that is going into this model, all wooden structures is of 3ply wood and the engine parts are of a high quality aloy metal, the cockpit and all the instruments inside is of high detail, and even have 2 fueltanks with caps, and the whole plane will be coated by an aluminium foil, which will give the aircraft almost an exotic, and real finnish.

yes it is very expensive, in our currency about R6000.00

but if you take the history of the aircraft and detail in to acount, this will defenitly be a collectors item.

my biggest problem is where to put it when im finnished with it, so my kids wont get hold of it and ruin all my hard work. LOL

regards

Hannes

[Ian M]

I can only agree that the cost of these 'hatchet jobs' is fenominal. How ever, giving up when you are so far into it is a total wast of money. You will never get your out lay back by selling it. My thoughs would be to se it through and learn never to get into one of those again.

I have seen several fora where the Hatchet Bismark has been totally trashed, but mostly due to the avaliability and delivery problems.

The ones I have seen that are being built most have said that its a good build, just takes too long and is starting to get expensive.

So if you are so far into it bite the apple and get it done. Anything else would be like buying a beer then not drinking it as it was to expensive.

Ian M

[Guest]

These things are par for the course and it's this manner of marketing that makes the money, how many would happily hand over £600+ for a model and a pile of literature.

Now if you really like it and the magazines have good factual battle of Britain / WWII / Aircraft info then maybe it would be OK and realistically the other way to look at it is how much do you spend on newspapers over a year which get thrown in the bin, lining the cats litter tray, the budgies cage etc, same with magazines, I used to get a monthly motorbike mag at about £4 a month, after i'd gathered a few and read them they went to the Dr's surgery so they were recycled but gone so it's money spent and gone.

The big drawback for me is impatience, theres just no way I could wait for 70 odd issues to get all the bits I need to build it, I was sorely tempted by the recent 007 Aston Martin but as per the above thought stuff it and if it's DeAgostini they have a tendancy to bin them halfway through the series as people lose interest and to complete you have to purchase the remaining copies en masse.