Just read this on Aunt beeb: BBC News - Defence review: HMS Ark Royal to be scrapped
What the hell are they doing over there???
Ian M
What the hell are they doing over there???
Ian M
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There's a lot of things going off at the mo Ian with defence cutts, the next conflict the Army will have bows and arrows, Navy will have a rowing boat with a bow and arrow and the RAF will have a paper airplane with guess what? .................................................. ...................... a bow and arrow.
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I think there is incompetence at the highest levels now and no consistency in direction or goal. The Ark Royal has only just undergone a huige refit and now they are going to scrap her!
Heaven help us when the next Falklands conflict kicks off.Comment
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My late father was an ex FAA pilot. When the "Task Force" sailed to the Falklands he said it didn't have the air defence capability needed to defend itself and that they would lose a lot of ships. He was correct,despite the best efforts of the handful of Harriers. With cuts like this there will be no next time.
By the way the only time in my life I saw him on the verge of tears,or at least some dust in his eyes, was when they scrapped the previous Ark Royal, the one he knew.
Cheers
SteveComment
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There will be another conflict at some point in the world, and the UK will be found wanting, You would of thought that any country no matter what the fiscal climate, that Health services,emergency services and the country's defence should always be paramount and beyond cuts. so while we are cutting back on the essentials, we become a target for terrorists and the like.
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Do i understand this right, they are scrapping Ark royal because they can't afford her but are building 2 new new carriers the philip and elizabeth........ and 7 yes 7 new neuclear submarines, they are also reducing the amount of tanks and artillery and cutting the budget for neccessary equipment for our infantry JUST WHAT THE HELL IS THIS GOVERNMENT THINK IT'S DOING if there is another conflict i say we put cameron and his fools on the front line and let them sort it. Now take the U.S they have a massive defence budget and have some of the finest weapons and equipment know to man and they are just as finacially skint as we are..... sommit wrong somewhere.
scottComment
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It's a cunning plan first implemented by Poland in 1939. You spend bugger all on your defence but sign up to a treaty with the nearby powers (Britain and France in their case) or alliance (NATO in ours) to guarantee your security.
It worked really well for them didn't it, only a few million dead and the Germans made Warsaw look lovely.
Cheers
SteveComment
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Dont get me started on this Im sick of this government already I totally agree with you noble send those clowns from that stupid building No10 into the next war we go to.Comment
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Absalute morons, who in the right mind would take away our one and only facility that enables us to launch air strikes at sea. Not only are these idiots hell bent on making everyone of us poorer and unemployed but now they are making us defenceless. And yes they even inform the world of our weekness. Total brain dead idiots.
AndyComment
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I used to be infantry and the equipment we were issued back then was crap we actually bought stuff personally from the americans. Did you hear the latest Cameron in all his infinite wisdom is only cutting the defence budget by 8% instead of 10 how freakin nice of him, now if his family were injured due to a terrorist attack then he'd be the first one screamin for blood bring back Gordon brown i say.
scottComment
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Send them all to the front line i say.Comment
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The bit that really got me was the point that It would cost to more to cancell the Elizabeth and the Prince of Wales, so they will build them. So what are they going to do with them once they are built? Just let them rot? Sell them on e-bay.
I think that things where summed up quite well by the US sec of defence when he commented that "I am deeply worried by this!"
I dont want to say start a war but if the Falklands kicks off before this madness is instigated maybe someone will change their mind about this. Somehow I doubt it though.
It will all end in tears when the British armed forces suddenly figure out where all the people went. Who wants to join a 100% professional (not drafted) service when they have nothing to drive/fly/sail in, nothing to shoot with and no money to by arrows should they be so lucky to fine a bow.
Rule Britannia, Britannia rules the ......... glup glup, bubble bubble bubble, shall be saved.........
Nuff said.
Ian MComment
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HERE HERE Andy well said they'll have us defending ourselves in armour with bloody swords from horse back soon.... sorry but it makes me very angry that this government who only got in because we the people could not make our minds up by the way are also in the market to cut the trident program as well... we the people put them there call another election and get them out .... here endith the rant i apponlogise.
scottComment
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Heh ian if they are going to sell them on e-bay we as a forum should all bid on them he he he.
scottComment
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And we all know what the TUC stands for; Ten Useless C____s, sorry but has to be said.Comment
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