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**Guest** · 08 November 2010, 22:49

I think you're being a bit hard on yourself Graham, I think it looks pretty decent, admittedly i'm no figure painter but i'd be pleased enough with that.

I've seen some great tutorials on youtube for weathering figures though should you want to delve deeper.

**Guest** · 08 November 2010, 22:59

Hey graham,

take a look at this site mate, out of this world. Aces of Iron Productions, Inc.

Andy

**Guest** · 08 November 2010, 23:01

Sorry to hear your troubles on this Graham, Im working on the 1:16 Rommel, if you need any specific tips I will do my best to try and help.

This is stage 1 of his face,the base colour can take some time it will need about another 4 or 5 hours work,when the base colour is how you want it then we can try and bring it to life, with different tones and sunburn etc.

I am a slow painter, and this base colour took me about 2 hours.

Dont give up Graham, I find I do figures better if I do a little bit at a time, inbetween waiting for primer to dry etc, you could try having it as a side project, inbetween your other projects.

**Guest** · 08 November 2010, 23:04

WOW, Ray, you never sease to amaze me mate.

Andy

**Guest** · 08 November 2010, 23:09

Thank you Andy, Graham have you tried oil paints for the face, there superb for blending and give you plenty of working time, and so easy to correct if you make a mistake.Please dont bin the figure, if your not happy just strip it and start over.

**Guest** · 08 November 2010, 23:12

I`ll tell you what mate I think you`ve got the face and hands looking very nice to me thats the hardest bit done , and your detail painting looks spot on , remember what we see is nearly twice as big , maybe lighter dry brushing and weathering would help on the uniform and jack boots but thats a blimming good effort for your 1st time with 1/16 scale mate I`ll tell ya

Richy

**Centurion3RTR** · 08 November 2010, 23:47

Looks good to me Graham, i like it mate. I'm like Ray when it comes to figures, little bit at a time works well.

Have fun, John

**Guest** · 09 November 2010, 16:37

Thanks for the comments guys.

Andy, that link is superb. I gave downloaded the PDF and will study it this evening.

Ray (ya bugger) your post has underlined my misgivings about my ability to do this, that is one really great face. It is also what I strive towards. I am not being hard on myself guys, mine is rubbish compared to Rays (the git) lol. I know it, and you know it so the idea is to move on and get it right.

I have not really gone far enough with oils Ray. I have tried them but I am impatient and not good at visualising colours. I read somewhere of a flesh mix using oils that consisted of about eight colours including red, green and blue!!!! I cannot 'see' colour mixes in my mind to get this right, I did try and ended up with a diarrhoea brown (and you know how many shades that comes in, well I got them all). Is your 'Rommel' painted with oils? I see that oils are used on the site that Andy provided the link to so much looking at is due. I will strip the figure down I have done but I am not sure how far I will be able to disassemble it without damage as I rather oddly (for me) used superglue to stick it together. The main thing is getting the head off and getting the helmet off which I believe is Gator glue so it may give if not too much has found a bonding surface.

I am a tad disappointed as I had spent five days playing with my little man to finally get him erect with a nice shiny helmet but, it turned out to be four and a half inches of disappointment...... actually, that does sound familiar.........

**Guest** · 09 November 2010, 17:03

Graham, whats the costs involved with this sort of kit? Looking at this thread and the link supplied I might give this a go. Looks fun.

**Guest** · 09 November 2010, 17:27

Single figures that Tamiya and Dragon do at 1:16 retail between £8 and £15, Some of these will have basic equipment, but you have to be careful as to what you get. There is a Dragon kit where the box art depicts two soldiers (US WWII) firing a 60mm mortar. In small print on the box it says "figures not included" you just get the mortar.

It is an interesting scale though as Tamiya, Dragon and Trumpeter have some fine figures from Romans up to Gulf war and some quite nice ones can be got between the £9 and £12 mark and, if done properly, represent quite a number of hours painting rather than building into what can become a bit of an obsessive side to our hobby.

Having said that. If you venture into specialist resin figures (1:16 is the same as 120mm or there abouts) you can pay as as much as you want. There are some amazing figures that go for between £50 and £100.... I need to get a few Tamiyas under my belt before I tackle something like that.

if you shop around, it can be an economical if slow to do sideline and can teach a lot about painting and (in my case) learning new swear words...........

**Guest** · 09 November 2010, 17:48

Verlinden do quite a few 120mm figures which are resin and range from £12 to £30 odd quid , its worth a look on ebay just to get an idea even the cheaper ones look stunning

( what have you started Graham I`m tempted to try one myself now LOL )

Richy

**Guest** · 09 November 2010, 18:12

Sorry Richy lol

**Guest** · 09 November 2010, 18:26

Glad to help Graham, i just downloaded the PDF too, i didnt see it, i was so engrossed with the step by step tuition.

Andy

**Ian M** · 09 November 2010, 18:40

I am a tad disappointed as I had spent five days playing with my little man to finally get him erect with a nice shiny helmet but, it turned out to be four and a half inches of disappointment...... actually, that does sound familiar.........

That is so wronge in sooooooooooo many ways LOL!!!

Graham. Do not dispare! Your efforts are pretty good. I am pretty shite at figures, Well faces. I have done a few in oils, and they get the best results. As for the uniforms, Have you ever considered your air brush?

Sounds a non starter, granted. However its a trick of the light. Spray the figure in the main base colour. Say German uniform green for the jacket. Then find or mix a lighter shade. Spray this in a downwards direction, and you will hit all the highlights. Mix a darker tone than the base and spray upwards. That will catch the shadows. Then a quick wash in the deep folds. Then a dry brush of an even lighter shade to pick out the ridges.

I did this on my Russian fishermen in the volga dio. They turned out ok. and they where a bit smaller that that gigantic 1/16 figure you have. (that might of worked in my favour).

A bit about faces. Skin is translucent. All those loverly shades and couours you see are in or under the skin. One techniqe I have seen is to paint the face in colours you might not think of. Blue or brown for the five O'clock shadow area, purple for the lips, Deep red on the cheeks. Once you have coco the clown and its dry, then you start on the skin tones, Thin translucent coats and build them up untill the freaky colours are nowt but a hint under the 'skin'.

Right thats that I'm off to read that link.

Ian M

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