Kleer and present danger

[Guest]

Can't you get Klear shipped over from the States or is it illegal to courrier that stuff? When i was back in Blighty earlier this year, i stole my parents last bottle of Klear and bought two new ones. I had some friends from the States bring me a couple of bottles of Future (Klear). I guess you can transport it but not via post. World gone mad.

[stona]

I don't see why you couldn't "post" it. It's not an aerosol and it's not volatile or flammable. It's hardly more hazardous than water!

Steve

[Guest]

Well thanks for all your input guys it really helps, however, i do have a few questions now having read all your comments. Please forgive me for being a pain but im swimming in your pond now and i have absolutly no idea at all.

Here goes...

If Klear gives problems if you put on too much, am i better to get Xtracrylix gloss varnish .

Then does not Xtracrylix gloss varnish give you a gloss finish,

This is the final coat to seal all of your finished art work, would covering it with Xtracrylix gloss varnish not give it a bright finish, and if it is a scale paint job, is not a flat/dull varnish a better effect.

From what has been explained by M1ks Xtracrylix gloss varnish seems to be around the same price as Klear so why not use that instead.

Does John sell what im looking for in the Shop

Sorry again for all the questions but be assured guys i am taking notes for reference.

Thanks again

Andy

[wonwinglo]

The good feature of Klear is that when applied to a matt finish it soaks in giving a more realistic sheen than the matt paints on the market and locks in the decals as well at the same time,successive coats build up to a more glossy effect.

I am also told that the American equivalent is less likely to yellow with age,I have a really ancient bottle on my shelf that is just starting to show a yellow tinge,but that bottle really is ancient !

Application on small areas is best done with a cotton wool bud or similar,it just flows and levels itself nicely,I must nip down to Morrisons and get a bottle of that new product mentioned here.

I do not think it would be a viable thing to sell in the Sacle-Models shop as John would probably have to buy such a large quantity to keep the price viable,and long term storage for him could be an headache as well ?

Has anyone found a successful way of matting it off a bit ? as can be seen talc turns it into a first class wood filler especially for balsawood.

Wonwinglo.

[Guest]

Part of the confusion is my part, apologies.

Hopefully, to clarify, the original clear Klear in see through bottle is not officially avaialable 'new' anywhere, the new Klear is the white bottle and the contents are slightly opaque / milky, if left to pool on something you can get a thick bit which will dry opaque but can be easily stripped, basic Klear is glossy and is used as a pre decal / wash sealer and can be used as a top coat.

It's incredibly watery and if you aren't careful easy to get runs but on the positive side, it's great at self levelling.

The cost comment relates to the rip off prices being charged by unscrupulous gits on Amazon and ebay selling the 'old' Klear knowing it's popularity with modellers, at this price, the Xtracrylix I mentioned isn't much dearer, though at the 'new' Klear Morrissons price then it's pricier.

I like the Xtracrylics which is very cheap in relation to standard model paints and they do a gloss, satin and matte.

Re matting down the Klear, Tamiya flat base works a treat,

10% - Semi gloss

20% - Satin

30% - Flat

Don't use more than 30%, measure accurately and shake / stir very well.

[Guest]

Great stuff guys, thanks for Klearing that up lol

Andy

[Guest]

I just checked Future (klear) on Amazon in the States and when i was ready to go to checkout, it said "can't send this by air service"

[Guest]

Thanks guys. I now have in my workshop exactly what you have told me to get, even did a bit of bulk buying lol

Andy

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[Guest]

Glad you found it Andy, I bet they wondered what the hell you are going to do with all that Ammonia!

You were probably under surveillance by special branch from the moment you used your debit card and will be for the next few days , in fact I bet the boffin's are trying to work out how Johnson's Klear fits in with the theory?

[Guest]

lol. i did wonder what that guy was doning im our wheelie bin this morning.

andy

[Gern]

A couple of you have suggested using diluted ammonia to clean your airbrush after spraying Klear. I'm sure I read somewhere that ammonia can damage the chrome finish on an A/B. I want to spray some Klear (new style) soon and don't want to b****r up my new A/B - what's the best way to clean up afterwards?

[Guest]

I use my standard airbrush cleaner Dave, full strength blue screen wash, a couple of colour cups full should do it. Not had any issues yet. Main thing is not to let the Klear dry out. Only time this did happen to me I ended up cleaning it with cellulose thinners which I tend to use for the final full clean before putting away the airbrush anyway.

[Guest]

Although on prefer Humbrol Clear, I do the same as Graham & use windscreen wash to clean the AB.


I've found that using a low pressure (10 PSI) gives the best results.

[Gern]

Sorted! Thanks guys.