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    #1

    Need to travel in time.

    Hi guys!

    Need help, I found somethings interesting on the net, but is difficult to me find the good one...

    I'm searching information,maps,history,etc....of London during the S.XIX!

    I move beetwen the period 1600 to 1900, from Christopher Marlowe with his "Faust" to ends of 1800 with your Sherlock Holmes..!

    Any of you,please, know a good web or book to research information?

    Don't worry friends, I don't think to do a dio!!!

    Thanks for all.

    Polux
  • Ian M
    Administrator
    • Dec 2008
    • 18272
    • Ian
    • Falster, Denmark

    #2
    maps of London during the What? S.XIX? As is the 1500's ?

    Ian M
    Group builds

    Bismarck

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    • Guest

      #3
      I imagine Polux means "Siglo" XIX or the 19th century Ian..

      I'll have a look at some old books and photos i have polux, is there any specific buildings, landmarks or earthworks you're looking for???

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      • Ian M
        Administrator
        • Dec 2008
        • 18272
        • Ian
        • Falster, Denmark

        #4
        Duh where the heck did I get 1500 from!!!??? 1900.

        that should be a lot easier...

        Ian M
        Group builds

        Bismarck

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        • Guest

          #5
          Originally posted by \
          maps of London during the What? S.XIX? As is the 1500's ?Ian M
          oster_oops:

          Sorry Ian!! I wrote it fast and without attention....

          It's century!! And XIX is 1900 not 1500.....

          oster_oops:

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          • Guest

            #6
            Originally posted by \
            I imagine Polux means "Siglo" XIX or the 19th century Ian..I'll have a look at some old books and photos i have polux, is there any specific buildings, landmarks or earthworks you're looking for???
            I must write a history. My point of start is a 1880... It's a history of mystery for a few friends. I would be interested to write a story with touches of fantasy, with alchemists, the Doctor Faust and other mysteries of the ancient London.

            Thanks Colin!

            Polux

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            • rickoshea52
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              • Dec 2011
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              • Rick

              #7
              Hi Polux,

              A useful source would be the Museum of London but I imagine that it's not convenient for you to make a day trip of it but you could try their website - Museum of London - Museum of London The 1600's in London were a time of plague and fire, two of the most significant events in London history. The plague of 1665 that caused thousands of deaths and the Great Fire in 1666 devastated much of medieval London. In a way, the fire was benificial. It destroyed much of the overcrowded buildings and streets which allowed city planners of the day to redesign the city with more forethought and with newer materials, most of the buildings that were destroyed were wood. One of the oldest pub's in London is Ye Olde Chesire Cheese in Wine Office Court off o Fleet Street. It was rebuilt after the Great Fire and looks more or less as it did then as it does now. The step at the front door is so worn down that it has a metal grate on top of it and a list of all the Monarchs that have ruled England and later Great Britain is on the outside wall. The London diarist Samuel Pepys, Dr Johnson who compiled the first dictionary and Charles Dickens are all reputed to have visited this pub. Many new buildings and churches were built after the fire with many being designed by Sir Christopher Wren including St.Paul's Cathedral.

              Another useful museum for London related information is the London Transport Museum. Though transport related it gives details of how London expanded rapidly in the late 19th C into the urban sprawl it is today - Home - London Transport Museum

              Foyles is a famous London bookshop. Their website has loads of books about London, just type it as your keyword but there is a book specific to your time period, London: A Century in the City by Brian Girling caught my eye.

              I used to live and work in London as a bicycle courier so I got to know it well and I am forever fascinated by its history. The 1900's were a period of rapid expansion for London with trade and migration creating a boom in wealth and the population. This is the period of British history that was marked by some of Britain's most celebrated military victories (and the occasional defeat), expansion of her Empire and the Industrial revolution. By the second half of the century London had become one of the biggest, if not the biggest, citys and trading ports in the world when what had previously been poor quality land to the east of the city developed into a massive shipping port with docks, wharfs and warehouses constructed. Great public works were started - Bazalgette constructed the sewer system, the London Underground was started (it celebrates its 150th anniversary this year), the construction of the Thames embankment and many grand streets and parks.

              I hope this gives you some ideas on where to find out more but just ask if you have any questions.

              p.s. Are you on the French or Spanis side of the Pyrenees? I lived in Toulouse for a few years too. Lovely part of the world.
              On the bench: Airfix 1/48 Sea King HC4, Revell 1/24 Trabant.
              Coming soon: Airfix 1/72 Phantom FGR2.
              Just finished: Airfix 1/48 Stuka & Airfix 1/72 Sea King HC4.

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              • Guest

                #8
                How about Jack the Ripper (1880s). "Jack the Ripper is the best-known name given to an unidentified serial killer who was active in the largely impoverished areas in and around the Whitechapel district of London in 1888." That is the first part of his Wickipedia entry where there is lots more.

                Its a pity that you don't plan to do a dio. A fearsome wild-eyed brute wielding a knife on the limp and screaming body of an innocent prostitute, blood gushing, entrails, red lamp shining in the background, full moon among black clouds, a woman's face in horror at an upstairs window, a pub in the background full of rosy-cheeked merrymakers, a black cat, a dustbin with a fish skeleton hanging out, a door off its hinges, .... An opportunity!

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                • Guest

                  #9
                  Originally posted by \
                  Hi Polux,A useful source would be the Museum of London but I imagine that it's not convenient for you to make a day trip of it but you could try their website - Museum of London - Museum of London The 1600's in London were a time of plague and fire, two of the most significant events in London history. The plague of 1665 that caused thousands of deaths and the Great Fire in 1666 devastated much of medieval London. In a way, the fire was benificial. It destroyed much of the overcrowded buildings and streets which allowed city planners of the day to redesign the city with more forethought and with newer materials, most of the buildings that were destroyed were wood. One of the oldest pub's in London is Ye Olde Chesire Cheese in Wine Office Court off o Fleet Street. It was rebuilt after the Great Fire and looks more or less as it did then as it does now. The step at the front door is so worn down that it has a metal grate on top of it and a list of all the Monarchs that have ruled England and later Great Britain is on the outside wall. The London diarist Samuel Pepys, Dr Johnson who compiled the first dictionary and Charles Dickens are all reputed to have visited this pub. Many new buildings and churches were built after the fire with many being designed by Sir Christopher Wren including St.Paul's Cathedral.

                  Another useful museum for London related information is the London Transport Museum. Though transport related it gives details of how London expanded rapidly in the late 19th C into the urban sprawl it is today - Home - London Transport Museum

                  Foyles is a famous London bookshop. Their website has loads of books about London, just type it as your keyword but there is a book specific to your time period, London: A Century in the City by Brian Girling caught my eye.

                  I used to live and work in London as a bicycle courier so I got to know it well and I am forever fascinated by its history. The 1900's were a period of rapid expansion for London with trade and migration creating a boom in wealth and the population. This is the period of British history that was marked by some of Britain's most celebrated military victories (and the occasional defeat), expansion of her Empire and the Industrial revolution. By the second half of the century London had become one of the biggest, if not the biggest, citys and trading ports in the world when what had previously been poor quality land to the east of the city developed into a massive shipping port with docks, wharfs and warehouses constructed. Great public works were started - Bazalgette constructed the sewer system, the London Underground was started (it celebrates its 150th anniversary this year), the construction of the Thames embankment and many grand streets and parks.

                  I hope this gives you some ideas on where to find out more but just ask if you have any questions.

                  p.s. Are you on the French or Spanis side of the Pyrenees? I lived in Toulouse for a few years too. Lovely part of the world.
                  I don't know what to say Rick!!

                  Thank you very much for this amazing information, and all the time that represent to wrote it!!!!

                  Thank you very much again!

                  I have learned many interesting stories and new surprising things of London. Genial!!

                  I live in the spanish side. Toulouse is 300 km (186mi 723.99yd) from my house.

                  Regards

                  Polux

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                  • Guest

                    #10
                    Originally posted by \
                    How about Jack the Ripper (1880s). "Jack the Ripper is the best-known name given to an unidentified serial killer who was active in the largely impoverished areas in and around the Whitechapel district of London in 1888." That is the first part of his Wickipedia entry where there is lots more.Its a pity that you don't plan to do a dio. A fearsome wild-eyed brute wielding a knife on the limp and screaming body of an innocent prostitute, blood gushing, entrails, red lamp shining in the background, full moon among black clouds, a woman's face in horror at an upstairs window, a pub in the background full of rosy-cheeked merrymakers, a black cat, a dustbin with a fish skeleton hanging out, a door off its hinges, .... An opportunity!
                    Thank you very much Steve!

                    I don't remember Jack the ripper!! What a fantastic idea you give me!!

                    Mmm....you are tempting to me with the dio!! Mini art has a lot of buildings... Just need a scratch figures....

                    What a genial idea!!

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                    • Guest

                      #11
                      Hi Polux

                      I do not know what part of the 19th century or subject that you intend to concentrate on but around the that time there were a lot of wars that the U.K were fighting from the Napoleonic times to the Boer war at the end of the 19th century but a point of research for whatever you need could also be the National Army Museum - Research | National Army Museum, London

                      Andy

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                      • Guest

                        #12
                        Thank you very much guys, I'm really pleasure with your help and attention!!

                        Wow!! I have a lot of work now!! Will have to leave the modelling for a while now...

                        Cheers

                        Polux

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                        • Guest

                          #13
                          Here's a few maps for you to look at Polux

                          London district 1889

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                          London started it's main railway structure early 1800's, this is a map of 1899 showing how it had grown in 70 odd years

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                          Poverty and wealth was measured for cities and districts and indicated on maps of the period, this is a poverty map of 1889 and the key you need to see the different levels of wealth across the Hoxton district (East London)

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                          Hope this is of interest

                          *edit* .. uploading the maps has resized them and they're hard to read, i can email them to you if you want ... just PM me your email address.

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                          • Guest

                            #14
                            Hi Colin!

                            I send to you the PM.

                            Thanks for all!

                            Polux

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