Bobs Tamiya 1/35 Panther Diorama

[Guest]

That's looking good so far Bob,it's always tough to show the pre-shading in photos.


As for your choice of a plain colour... well, it's your build but Panthers never served in North Africa - using Airfix box art isn't the most accurate source of information!


The photo you've used probably depicts a group of Panthers outside the MAN factory prior to having their camo paint added. There's an oft-repeated myth that German tanks were painted by their individual crews. The truth is that it was done by the factory or at field workshops many miles away from the front lines.


Keep the updates coming!

[tr1ckey66]

Hi Bob


Patrick is correct with regards to Panthers never being used in the desert (I have no idea what Airfix were thinking about with that boxart!) That said, it is possible for a Panther 'A' (your model is a late 'A' type) to have no camouflage, however, in all likelihood, it would have had Zimmerit applied.

[COLOR=rgb(39,42,52)]There's an oft-repeated myth that German tanks were painted by their individual crews. The truth is that it was done by the factory or at field workshops many miles away from the front lines.[/COLOR]

Patrick, I have to question your assertion that all Panzers were painted at the factory. This was true toward the end of the war but in the mid war years (indeed up to 1944) many received their camouflage from the workshops in the field. As proof, here's a Tiger II receiving it's camouflage in a field in Normandy.


As Patrick says though it's sometimes unwise to follow box art and it's always worth checking a few references for confirmation.


Bob, the paintwork on your Panther looks very nice - a very neat job. With a bit of detail painting this make for a stunning model.


Cheers


P

[Guest]

Hi Bob


Patrick is correct with regards to Panthers never being used in the desert (I have no idea what Airfix were thinking about with that boxart!) That said, it is possible for a Panther 'A' (your model is a late 'A' type) to have no camouflage, however, in all likelihood, it would have had Zimmerit applied.


Patrick, I have to question your assertion that all Panzers were painted at the factory. This was true toward the end of the war but in the mid war years (indeed up to 1944) many received their camouflage from the workshops in the field. As proof, here's a Tiger II receiving it's camouflage in a field in Normandy.


As Patrick says though it's sometimes unwise to follow box art and it's always worth checking a few references for confirmation.


Bob, the paintwork on your Panther looks very nice - a very neat job. With a bit of detail painting this make for a stunning model.


Cheers


P


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Paul, I did say also at field workshops! The myth I'd like to lay to rest is of individual crews painting their own tanks as a matter of course.

[tr1ckey66]

[COLOR=rgb(39,42,52)]Paul, I did say also at field workshops! The myth I'd like to lay to rest is of individual crews painting their own tanks as a matter of course.[/COLOR]

Ah good!  :P


Do people really think a tank crew would paint a vehicle? Wow, I would have thought that was obviously a myth.


Anyhoo, keep up the great work Bob.


Cheers


P

[monica]

very nice work Bob,nice coating,I do the preshade as well,as you say hard to see with pics some time,s,


then what I  do is the same paint ,I used for the base coat,add some off white,to make a shade a few tones,


liter,and use were,the most sun would hit,giving that bit of molting to it,looks great so far liking it,

[Guest]

That's looking good so far Bob,it's always tough to show the pre-shading in photos.


As for your choice of a plain colour... well, it's your build but Panthers never served in North Africa - using Airfix box art isn't the most accurate source of information!


The photo you've used probably depicts a group of Panthers outside the MAN factory prior to having their camo paint added. There's an oft-repeated myth that German tanks were painted by their individual crews. The truth is that it was done by the factory or at field workshops many miles away from the front lines.


Keep the updates coming!

Hi Bob


Patrick is correct with regards to Panthers never being used in the desert (I have no idea what Airfix were thinking about with that boxart!) That said, it is possible for a Panther 'A' (your model is a late 'A


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very nice work Bob,nice coating,I do the preshade as well,as you say hard to see with pics some time,s,


then what I  do is the same paint ,I used for the base coat,add some off white,to make a shade a few tones,


liter,and use were,the most sun would hit,giving that bit of molting to it,looks great so far liking it,

Thanks Patrick and Paul for the colour scheme camo info. Will keep that in mind for a future build. 


Thanks Monica, the preshade does give it a nice affect. I think I will preshade more often from now on. Its my second attempt at it and this time it worked out nicely. 


Well heres another build update


So super glueing the tracks worked. It did cause some frosting from the superglue drying but this was painted over. Detail painting is also complete. 














These holes need to he drilled again


 


Decaling then begun.








All decalled up and complete.








 


 





 


Will wait now for everything to dry. I have ordered Alclad II Flat coat and once that gets here I will flat coat it. As the matte coat I have usually produces a sheen affect.


After flat coating I will do some light weathering. 


In the mean time I will work on the Miniart Building


Hope you guys enjoyed the Build update and the photos. 

[flyjoe180]

Very nice work Bob

[monica]

nice going on this one,Bob looking good,like what your doing,

[Ian M]

Hoochie Cord - this can be found from an Army Disposals shop in Australia .. I dont know what it is called in the UK.

That would be para-cord in most of Europe.
Looking good Bob.


Now about those Mini-Art buildings. The main building parts are vac formed out of a sheet of plastic. If you watch the video on their web site it will help a lot with the cutting out.
One mistake a lot of people make is cutting them out the wrong way. So pay attention to that in the video, Also a whole sheet of sand paper glued to a flat board is great for sanding the cut edge flat. This helps a lot in getting a flat surface to glue up-

[tr1ckey66]

Looking good Bob. Looking forward to the building and resulting diorama. Ian's suggestions re: the Miniart building's construction are good ones. The sand paper glued to a board is a very good tip with these vacform kits.


Paul

[Guest]

Very nice work Bob

Thanks Joe mate!

nice going on this one,Bob looking good,like what your doing,

Thanks Monica!

Looking good Bob. Looking forward to the building and resulting diorama. Ian's suggestions re: the Miniart building's construction are good ones. The sand paper glued to a board is a very good tip with these vacform kits.


Paul

Thanks Paul, I have taken this suggestion on board

Now about those Mini-Art buildings. The main building parts are vac formed out of a sheet of plastic. If you watch the video on their web site it will help a lot with the cutting out.
One mistake a lot of people make is cutting them out the wrong way. So pay attention to that in the video, Also a whole sheet of sand paper glued to a flat board is great for sanding the cut edge flat. This helps a lot in getting a flat surface to glue up-

Thanks Ian for suggesting the video, I have watched a few and gone to the mini art website. It was very helpful. I used the methods to cut out he buildings very carefully. It took me quite a while to do so. I am happy with the results. There were a few mistakes but nothing some filling wont fix. The building are extremely detailed. 


Here is my latest build update with a preview of what the final diorama should look like. 


I have built the figures from the Tamiya Kit. Being a cheapskate I try to maximize what I can get from a kit, and never really ever use aftermarket figures or parts ... except maybe photoetch seatbelts (thats because I have a set of so many spare ones)





I have cut the base of the diorama out as well, I am uncertain as to wether I will place a wooden base under this or just leave it as is. 





Here is the main building cut out - there were two pieces, a back and a front, these have been glued together and filled in with putty. 








The other pieces of the building.. these are still being glued together





Lots of gaps in this one... not a big issue as it will be filled in with putty





Here is a preview of what I plan to set the diorama, the two soldiers are having a break due to a "lull in the battle space". I was always trained that whenever there is a  "lull in the battle space" you must take full advantage to rest up, gear up, refresh, do whatever needs to be done, mentally and physically so that once the lull dies down and the battle starts again, you are ready. 


So in this diorama the two soldiers are chilling out, getting some air and recuperating to start over again. Now with the soldier sitting down, I need some kind of drink to put in his hand, so might scratch build some kind of can, so it seems as if hes having a drink. 


Here it is the preview of a "lull in the battle space"








I hope you guys liked the build update and the photos, and most importantly the preview.

[Guest]

Looking good so far Bob, I hate making Miniart buildings, although they do look the part.


If you decide not to fix the cobbled base to a piece of wood, I'd suggest filling it with plaster. You'll need some weight to prevent it being top-heavy & wobbly.

[monica]

looking good Bob,there a little tricky the building,but i do like them,your done well with this one,so far,


very good advice by Patrick as well,and don,t forget to go around with a sharp blade and take off all these,little nubby things as well, 9_9

[Guest]

Looking good so far Bob, I hate making Miniart buildings, although they do look the part.


If you decide not to fix the cobbled base to a piece of wood, I'd suggest filling it with plaster. You'll need some weight to prevent it being top-heavy & wobbly.

looking good Bob,there a little tricky the building,but i do like them,your done well with this one,so far,


very good advice by Patrick as well,and don,t forget to go around with a sharp blade and take off all these,little nubby things as well, 9_9

Thanks Patrick and Monica, I have taken both your advices, I will add the wooden base at the end and I have removed as many nubs as I could. Miniart Buildings take a lot of time to build and paint and get right, but the final product is very detailed. This is my first every miniart building. With all the advice Ive gotten here its really helped me pull it off I think. 


Here is the latest Build update. 


So I built the base and had it primed, I primed it with Tamiya White primer.. simple reason being I was almost out of grey primer! I think it worked out really well as I decided to use the white primer as the colour of the walls. Well in any case I realised there were still some areas to fill and sand so this was then done. 


Here it is








I then preshaded with Tamiya XF-1 Flat Black Enamel. 


 


The cobblestone floor was painted Tamiya XF-66 





I then masked off the areas which I wanted to be white.. and then pre shaded again with more Tamiya XF-1 Flat Black Enamel. I did this because the colour I was going to apply wsa Tamiya X-17 Pink.. this was a glossy colour and also very pink so I needed it to be darker. 





Tamiya XF-17 Pink Enamel applied





Detail work was then done, the sides with exposed bricks were painted, I painted several individual bricks in the floor with different colours, I think there are 4 different colours in the floor. The door and window are painted a Flat earth, though the door will be given a clear orange top coat to give it more of a wood look. 





The back side still has a lot of work left to do





Posters added











Here is the diorama in its current state








Still lots of detailing to do on the backside of the building. I need to give the entire floor a wash as well, maybe also on the building too, and then apply some pigment weathering using Tamiya Weathering Master sets. Still waiting on my Alclad II Flat to arrive as well so I can weather the tank. 


I hope you all liked the Build Update and the photos. Comments are welcome!

[Guest]

That's coming along really well Bob. Looks like you've mastered those Miniart buildings!


For the inside, you can buy scale wallpaper, but I generally look through old magazines. My better half has lots with useful patterns.


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