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    #151
    Originally posted by John Race
    Of course Russian Tanks needed none off such add on's :smiling2: they went where others feared to go. :nerd:
    Rumour has it they didn't last long enough to see all 4 seasons so didn't need them :smiling5:

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      #152
      Originally posted by Allen Dewire
      If I'm not totally insane, Verlinden made a resin (kit 783) 1/15 Stug III Ausf. F/8 around 20 years ago.
      You may be totally insane for all I know, but you are also right about that StuG kit. There is A LOT wrong with it, though — I remember reading back an article about building it in MilMod sometime last year or last spring or so, and it has all kinds of minor mistakes that end up making it clearly wrong in several ways and areas to anyone who knows a little about StuGs. It’s also apparently not the easiest kit to build, largely thanks to Verlinden’s then-already outdated production methods (open moulds if at all possible, because — to put it bluntly but accurately — he was a cheapskate).

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      • Guest

        #153
        Originally posted by Jakko
        You may be totally insane for all I know, but you are also right about that StuG kit. There is A LOT wrong with it, though — I remember reading back an article about building it in MilMod sometime last year or last spring or so, and it has all kinds of minor mistakes that end up making it clearly wrong in several ways and areas to anyone who knows a little about StuGs. It’s also apparently not the easiest kit to build, largely thanks to Verlinden’s then-already outdated production methods (open moulds if at all possible, because — to put it bluntly but accurately — he was a cheapskate).
        Sir I wish to point out that my dear friend is certified insane, not just totally.
        Yours
        Dzhon Reys
        Bed 6
        Ward 9
        Broadmoor Hospital for the criminal insane
        Berkshire .

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          #154
          Originally posted by John Race
          Ward 9
          Broadmoor Hospital for the criminal insane
          Berkshire .
          Ah home, those padded cells, ice baths the good old days, remember them well.
          Pete

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          • Allen Dewire
            • Apr 2018
            • 4741
            • Allen
            • Bamberg

            #155
            Originally posted by John Race
            Sir I wish to point out that my dear friend is certified insane, not just totally.
            Yours
            Dzhon Reys
            Bed 6
            Ward 9
            Broadmoor Hospital for the criminal insane
            Berkshire .

            Originally posted by Pete Low
            Ah home, those padded cells, ice baths the good old days, remember them well.
            Pete
            So true what my friends above stated, but my favorite was the Electroshock Therapy 5 days a week. Nothing like the smell of my burning hairs first thing in the morning…………..

            Allen
            No, don't turn up the voltage!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
            Life's to short to be a sheep...

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            • SimonT
              • Apr 2018
              • 2824

              #156
              I have an insane desire to scratch build a 120mm/1:15 Stug B but I doubt there would be time due to work getting in the way


              Verlinden kits go for around the £450 mark

              There is the 1:15 Bandai Stug IV as well sometimes to be found at a much more reasonable £180ish

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                #157
                I've just had a look through the Voyager PE kit I bought for this. Laughed loudly and put it back in the box!

                I can't even see some of the parts so doubt I'll be able to work with them. Will have a go at some of the larger parts but think I'll be leaving the micro surgery to others for now lol.

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                • BattleshipBob
                  SMF Supporters
                  • Apr 2018
                  • 6821
                  • Bob
                  • Cardiff

                  #158
                  There was a Bandai kit on ebay few weeks ago, very interested but not at ££££££

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                  • SimonT
                    • Apr 2018
                    • 2824

                    #159
                    Bob - there is a Heng Long Stug IIIF available in 1:16 radio control but they are still about £120-140

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                    • Guest

                      #160
                      Oh Bob, you know you want it, think of the fun you could have. Go for it , your only here once.

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                      • Dave Ward
                        • Apr 2018
                        • 10549

                        #161
                        OK, here's a question - Zimmerit?
                        I know I can reproduce this with putty & a little rake, but this is rather long winded & messy, what about the alternatives, specifically Eduard PE, and ATAK resin?
                        Anyone with personal experience, thoughts?
                        Dave

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                        • Tim Marlow
                          • Apr 2018
                          • 18958
                          • Tim
                          • Somerset UK

                          #162
                          I’m sure Bob will correct me if I’m wrong, but Stugs used the waffle pattern Zim, so need putty and a stamp, rather than a rake. It’s probably the hardest pattern to do, so Atak would be a good call if you can get it for the kit you’re making....

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                          • Allen Dewire
                            • Apr 2018
                            • 4741
                            • Allen
                            • Bamberg

                            #163
                            Morn Dave,

                            It would all depend on if you want your kit to have zimmerit or not. StuG IV's built after August 1944 didn't have it applied. If you want to depict an earlier built one, then Tim has a good idea there with the Atak zimm. If you can find it, Cavalier made sheet zimmerit that was also easy to use. Waffle was mostly applied on StuG III's.

                            DEF also make zimmerit in the form of waterslide decals, but I'm not sure they do some for the StuG IV. Eduard is difficult to use as CA is the only way to attach it and the patterns are quite shallow, but not too bad when properly painted. HTHs

                            Prost
                            Allen
                            Life's to short to be a sheep...

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                            • Dave Ward
                              • Apr 2018
                              • 10549

                              #164
                              I should have said StuG IV, it just depends on how common it was for them to have zimmerit, or not - I guess looking through a load of pictures for reference will be the answer.
                              Dave

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                                #165
                                The pictures of StuG IVs in Spielberger’s book all show the classic ridged pattern, not the waffle pattern of many StuG IIIs, and says that in September 1944, the manufacturers were ordered to stop applying Zimmerit. If you want to be accurate you’d need to pay attention to various external details that more or less go along with whether or not Zimmerit should be applied, but you could also just say, “It’s a StuG IV” and apply Zimmerit or not as you see fit, of course

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