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  • Ian M
    Administrator
    • Dec 2008
    • 18272
    • Ian
    • Falster, Denmark

    #61
    Originally posted by adt70hk
    That's coming on very nicely Ian. Looking very good indeed!!!
    Thanks you.
    Originally posted by Tim Marlow
    Great Cam on that Spit Ian.
    Cheers.
    Originally posted by Mark1
    Looking good :thumb2:
    Thanks mate.
    Originally posted by peterairfix
    Top job so far
    Cheers Peter.
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    • Allen Dewire
      • Apr 2018
      • 4741
      • Allen
      • Bamberg

      #62
      Ok, I was on the wrong track there. I'll have a look in the arts and crafts stores then. We have a few of those here. I use my blu tack on sticks for holding all my small parts too. Works a charm....Thanks again Ian......

      Prost
      Allen
      Life's to short to be a sheep...

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      • Tim Marlow
        • Apr 2018
        • 18959
        • Tim
        • Somerset UK

        #63
        Originally posted by Ian M
        . …..I don't think modelshops carry it. THey probably have something like it that costs 10 times as much and lasts a tenth of the time……..
        Sounds like you are describing “Panzer putty” to me Ian. Made by MiG but only around five times the price :tongue-out3: . For those that may think panzer putty is significantly better, try “silly putty” or “science putty”. They are the same thing for around a third of the MiG price. I’ve got some, but keep mislaying it so haven’t actually tried it yet LOL….

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        • Tim Marlow
          • Apr 2018
          • 18959
          • Tim
          • Somerset UK

          #64
          Originally posted by Allen Dewire
          Ok, I was on the wrong track there. I'll have a look in the arts and crafts stores then. We have a few of those here. I use my blu tack on sticks for holding all my small parts too. Works a charm....Thanks again Ian......

          Prost
          Allen
          Blue tack is the most used tool on my modelling bench….

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          • Ian M
            Administrator
            • Dec 2008
            • 18272
            • Ian
            • Falster, Denmark

            #65
            Right then.
            Time to start playing silly beggars.
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            Bit the bullet and will have a go at the rondels in paint. Step one cut some masks. Then get them in place.
            The plastic film is sticky, the tape is just to catch the overspray. (he said hopefully)..
            The film use is Frisk film which can be gotten from art supply stores and the like.

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            Once all the masks where in place I mixed up some white and started to work around the aircraft, many light coats being the order of the day, it was mist one then on to the next and so on until a good coverage was obtained. The White is on the wing top rondels purely to get the same colour red and blue.
            Which if you want to know is Vallejo Model Air. Fire red and Dark Mediterranean blue are very good matches. The Yellow band on the fuselage rondel is RLM Yellow! lol. Very close to trainer yellow used by the RAF.
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            So once this lot has dried I can put the masks over the white and do the next colour...Yellow, then the Blue then the Red.


            Comments welcome as always.
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            • Tim Marlow
              • Apr 2018
              • 18959
              • Tim
              • Somerset UK

              #66
              Good luck with them Ian. Preparation looks good.

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              • adt70hk
                SMF Supporters
                • Sep 2019
                • 10445

                #67
                Originally posted by Ian M
                Which if you want to know is Vallejo Model Air. Fire red and Dark Mediterranean blue are very good matches. The Yellow band on the fuselage rondel is RLM Yellow! lol. Very close to trainer yellow used by the RAF.
                Ian

                What can I say but your timing on this point can only be described as impeccable!!!

                I knew RLM 04 was a good match for trainer yellow...... But having recently acquired some marking masks for my Whitley I have been struggling to find the right colour match in Model Air. Bookmarked for future use!!

                Keep up the good work on the build.

                Andrew

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                • Ian M
                  Administrator
                  • Dec 2008
                  • 18272
                  • Ian
                  • Falster, Denmark

                  #68
                  Cheers chaps.
                  adt70hk Andrew, the red is good but it will need an undercoat of something darker than white, I have just discovered.

                  Photos later, right now having a coffee and a sulk while I mull things over.
                  It would seem that I was a bit impatient today and might have steamed ahead a bit to quickly. Hmm
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                  • adt70hk
                    SMF Supporters
                    • Sep 2019
                    • 10445

                    #69
                    Originally posted by Ian M
                    Cheers chaps.
                    adt70hk Andrew, the red is good but it will need an undercoat of something darker than white, I have just discovered.

                    Photos later, right now having a coffee and a sulk while I mull things over.
                    It would seem that I was a bit impatient today and might have steamed ahead a bit to quickly. Hmm
                    Thanks Ian.....I hope it's not too bad over white....

                    Do you think a mid-ish grey will be enough or will it need black? Actually thinking about it black week probably be too dark...

                    ATB.

                    Andrew

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                    • Tim Marlow
                      • Apr 2018
                      • 18959
                      • Tim
                      • Somerset UK

                      #70
                      Originally posted by adt70hk
                      Thanks Ian.....I hope it's not too bad over white....

                      Do you think a mid-ish grey will be enough or will it need black? Actually thinking about it black week probably be too dark...

                      ATB.

                      Andrew
                      Personally I’d go with something like an equivalent to Vallejo model colour red leather or cavalry brown as an under shade. For a darker red use hull red as an under shade. They cover well, and are what I use on the little blokes when painting red. Reds are notoriously transparent and if you use grey it could turn purple. You would need many coats to cover black…..not something I’d like to try :worried:

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                      • Ian M
                        Administrator
                        • Dec 2008
                        • 18272
                        • Ian
                        • Falster, Denmark

                        #71
                        I was going to suggest much the same Tim.
                        I will have a look at the result tomorrow. But I am glad that I have the decals still.
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                        • adt70hk
                          SMF Supporters
                          • Sep 2019
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                          #72
                          Originally posted by Tim Marlow
                          Personally I’d go with something like an equivalent to Vallejo model colour red leather or cavalry brown as an under shade. For a darker red use hull red as an under shade. They cover well, and are what I use on the little blokes when painting red. Reds are notoriously transparent and if you use grey it could turn purple. You would need many coats to cover black…..not something I’d like to try :worried:
                          Originally posted by Ian M
                          I was going to suggest much the same Tim.
                          I will have a look at the result tomorrow. But I am glad that I have the decals still.
                          I will not hang my head with the appropriate amount of shame at my frankly unthinking ideas..... My excuse is that I'd just got home from work and hadn't wound down properly...:unamused:

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                          • Tim Marlow
                            • Apr 2018
                            • 18959
                            • Tim
                            • Somerset UK

                            #73
                            Originally posted by adt70hk
                            I will not hang my head with the appropriate amount of shame at my frankly unthinking ideas..... My excuse is that I'd just got home from work and hadn't wound down properly...:unamused:
                            Nothing to apologise for……I only know this because I did it on a BR parcels van back in the day. BR 1950s coach livery is called Blood and Custard, basically carmine red and cream. I had one that was more like plums and custard LOL…..

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                            • Ian M
                              Administrator
                              • Dec 2008
                              • 18272
                              • Ian
                              • Falster, Denmark

                              #74
                              Well one step forward two steps back as the saying goes.

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                              I tried to touch things up a bit today... Meh. looked even worse. Out came the wet and dry...
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                              Now it's just wait for it to dry out.
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                              Cut my losses and start bu respraying the camouflage.. Oh and gluing the Aileron back on. Again!
                              Surprised that I only knocked the Pilot tube of when masking up for the rondels, normally, for me the first thing to go...Then the rear view then the antenna attachment atop the Vertical stabiliser.. lol

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                              Glad that I used Stynylrez primer. So much better at sanding back without ripping up.
                              I guess tomorrow will see the camou and underside get redone. then DECALS will go down.

                              My take on what happened:
                              I was to impatient. Was using a paint I am not to used to. Vallejo Model Air is new to me. More used to their Model colour range. However the colour matches are better in the Air series. My Normal go to film for masking, frisk film, seemed to stick much better to the paint than it does normally. AND it left marks on the surface. Which it has never done befor.

                              So next time I will either just grab the Sovereign hobbies enamels or the xtracrylix Acrylics for anything that is getting maskes. OR just use Tamiya tape!

                              Later then.
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                              • adt70hk
                                SMF Supporters
                                • Sep 2019
                                • 10445

                                #75
                                Ian,

                                Sorry to hear and see about the problems. Hope you manage to fix it ok.

                                Andrew

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