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  • Mr Bowcat
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    • Dec 2016
    • 4642
    • Bob
    • London

    #31
    Just catching up with this thread George, good work so far.

    Just going back to your priming issues, one option would be to prime everything in black, then just hit the center of panels with white before your top colour. This would give a similar result to the one you were trying to achieve without having to spray thin panel lines.
    Si vis pacem, para bellum.

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    • Guest

      #32
      Originally posted by Mr Bowcat
      Just catching up with this thread George, good work so far.

      Just going back to your priming issues, one option would be to prime everything in black, then just hit the center of panels with white before your top colour. This would give a similar result to the one you were trying to achieve without having to spray thin panel lines. :smiling3:
      Thanks Bob, to be honest I think I'd even struggle with that method, so woeful is my 'fine' spraying ability at the moment...however I'll bear it in mind for future reference. I'm going to stick to just grey for a while longer...:smiling4:

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      • Jim R
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        • Apr 2018
        • 15994
        • Jim
        • Shropshire

        #33
        Hi George
        Late in for this - sorry. You are making a fine job of this and learning like mad. Also sounds as if you are having fun which is the only valid reason for any hobby. The guys have give you loads of sound tips. When I started I was given loads of really helpful advice and learned a lot from my own successes and failures. I kept a folder of all the ideas. I now have a fat A4 ring binder full to bursting. I still add to it and find it a great help.
        Jim

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        • Guest

          #34
          Figures (sort of) done...I'm not really happy with 'em but frankly I think I've done enough going over & over the same bits with little noticeable improvement :smiling: I've not really enjoyed doing them...although I've leaned lots in the two days it's taken me.
          Hopefully a bit of dirtying-up will make them less...errr...shiney!
          I'm not having a driver as I glued the hatch shut & it won't budge now.
          If these two don't make themselves more 'presentable' I may close all the hatches and they can jolly well walk themselves into the parts bin :smiling5:

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          • scottie3158
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            • Apr 2018
            • 14393
            • Paul
            • Holbeach

            #35
            George,
            Looking good on the figures, may I suggest a dull coat to take off the shine. or it may just be the light

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            • Guest

              #36
              They don’t look overly shiny, but a coat of matt varnish will probably (if you stir it enough ) kill any remaining gloss.

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              • Guest

                #37
                I was thinking of getting them a bit dusty...somehow. Point taken about stirring matt varnish!

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                • Mr Bowcat
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                  • Dec 2016
                  • 4642
                  • Bob
                  • London

                  #38
                  I'd highly recommend a darkish grey dry brushing for the crew.
                  Si vis pacem, para bellum.

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                  • Guest

                    #39
                    I've dirtied them up a bit. The flash does make them appear shinier & accentuates the brown colour here, which isn't so evident under normal lighting...which was the plan at least.

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                    • Guest

                      #40
                      Originally posted by Xarathustra
                      Point taken about stirring matt varnish!
                      I wish it worked for me … I thought I’d thoroughly stirred a bottle of Humbrol Matt Cote for killing the semi-gloss effect on some figures this afternoon, and tonight they were still just as shiny as before I applied it

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                      • Mini Me
                        • Jun 2018
                        • 10711

                        #41
                        If you are not satisfied with your current state of dustiness, I would suggest pastel chalks lightly applied with a small dry brush. It produces a very soft effect and will kill any remaining sheen.
                        Regards, Rick H.

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                        • Steve Jones
                          • Apr 2018
                          • 6615

                          #42
                          Lots of positives to take from the build George. Looking forward to seeing the figures in situ

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                          • Guest

                            #43
                            I'm beginning to do some weathering (of sorts). This is my medium...we'll see how well it goes before I resort to forking out a fortune for mud effects that I can't use straight from the garden :smirk:

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                            Here is a snap shot of the wheels...I think it looks pretty good so far anyway. The plan is to have the tank on a damp street of some kind. It will have been used cross-country to get to this point, hence the mud. I'll put some kind of clear glossy finish to make the mud appear damp.

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                            Tracks have been painted & I've added some 'wear' to them to make them appear to have been across a hard surface rather than just having been across a field. They'll need more attention later on.

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                            I'm not quite sure yet how I'm going to deal with the sides behind the running wheels. I'd like to have some caked on mud in places which I plan to use some kind of (household) fine filler...we'll see...

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                            • Guest

                              #44
                              Hi George,
                              Just caught up on your build, and so far can see nothing wrong that a bit more experiance would help. What can I add, except that we have all been there, change of scale, coming back to the model hobby, hiding from the wife and it is forums like this one where you can ask the questions no matter how weak they may seem and get logical answers and advice. If you intend to make German WW2 vehicles your main subject then the Osprey books on uniforms etc can be obtained second hand from ebay, plus of course we have good old you tube where subjects can go from a - b and back again. So keep up the progressive work and looking forward to more from you.
                              Cheers, Mike.

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                              • Guest

                                #45
                                Originally posted by Xarathustra
                                I'm beginning to do some weathering (of sorts). This is my medium...we'll see how well it goes before I resort to forking out a fortune for mud effects that I can't use straight from the garden :smirk:
                                Is that dirt plus water, or dirt plus water plus white glue? The former will rub off, the latter probably won’t (if you put enough glue in ).

                                Originally posted by Xarathustra
                                I'll put some kind of clear glossy finish to make the mud appear damp.
                                Damp mud is darker than dry mud, not usually more glossy

                                Originally posted by Xarathustra
                                Tracks have been painted & I've added some 'wear' to them to make them appear to have been across a hard surface rather than just having been across a field. They'll need more attention later on.
                                The tracks probably wouldn’t be overly rusted, and running on hard surfaces can produce a fairly shiny finish like you’ve got here. I can’t really tell what colour the tracks are now, because of their own shadows falling into them, but adding a dark or dirt-coloured wash all over them will probably give a good effect.

                                Originally posted by Xarathustra
                                I'm not quite sure yet how I'm going to deal with the sides behind the running wheels. I'd like to have some caked on mud in places which I plan to use some kind of (household) fine filler...we'll see...
                                That’s another reason to leave wheels off a model until after painting: you’ll be able to get mud and similar effects behind the wheels without leaving a base-coloured shadow.

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