Trumeter HMS Dreadnought 1907

[Guest]

I am not sure what the problem is John........... But could you not dull coat the wooden deck ...... Then fit it and mask the edges. The dull coat would seal it. ?

Yeah, sorry mate, it is a bit garbled reading it back bottom line is, I can't airbrush anything once that deck is down, beginning to think I'm better off brushing the superstructure, which solves many issues! I might even ditch the wooden decking, I am a little bit sceptical about the scale of the caulking lines anyway. I'm really enjoying the challenge of PE though!


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ah, this one is 90 degrees counterclockwise...sheesh! But thesis one of the deck storage boxes, folded box with two sets of hatches folded and superglued onto the top...

[takeslousyphotos]

I`m trying hard to learn working with PE John. But tiny little stuff like that is way beyond me. I just get astrology and bin it ....... You have my respect for doing that.

[papa 695]

I've used PE in the past John, but that is Tiny. Great work so far keep it up

[flyjoe180]

Tiny work but very nicely done, great work so far John.

[Guest]

Ah, good, whatever glitch was preventing my getting a pic to load upright, has gone!


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This gives a slightly better idea of my dilemma, those little uprights on the left hand superstructure need to locate through the holes in the decking and be glued into the holes in the moulding. I'm coming to the conclusion that I need to prime the main components, then stick the decking down, glue the boat deck et al to the superstructure then hand paint the tiny details (of which there will be many). I might just use enamels for this one...

[Guest]

Coming on nicely. The PE make all the difference

[spanner570]

John, you are quite right about the deck caulking....It is way too wide. It's hard to judge, but I bet it's about a hand's span in real life!


I suppose the deck could be shaded a bit to hide the lines. I must confess to being very anti these kind of decks, so I guess I'm a bit bias.


Great work so far and your patience with the P.E. knows no bounds......I wouldn't even open the box!

[Guest]

Tentatively dry fitting bits together, just to help decide how to move forward!

John, you are quite right about the deck caulking....It is way too wide. It's hard to judge, but I bet it's about a hand's span in real life!
I suppose the deck could be shaded a bit to hide the lines. I must confess to being very anti these kind of decks, so I guess I'm a bit bias.


Great work so far and your patience with the P.E. knows no bounds......I wouldn't even open the box!

So true! I have decided to put it back into its packaging and paint it - to be honest, the moulded caulking is far more realistic, but viewed from most distances, the caulking wouldn't even register at this stage. Add to this the fact that after 6 months or so of being commisioned, that teak would be pretty much a dull greyish brown! Then, of course, there's the small matter of it adding a huge scale thickness to the deck!

[spanner570]

I'm glad you agree John, I didn't want to put any sort of damper on an excellent start to your build.


I have the Tamiya 1/350 KG5 on the stocks and I had a look at the wooden decks for this. Then had a look at the plastic kit deck'', and when painted / weathered, could look far more realistic than the 'wooden' offerings.


You make a good point about the thickness of these decks...I know they are thin, but surely when fixed to the plastic deck and over various bits, would that not make those items ( capstans, winches and the like, shorter than they actually are, not to mention perhaps hiding some lower detail...and what about where they go over the various mouldings? Would they not leave a gap, however small, between the surfaces that would need to be filled?


Having typed all that, I could be wrong as I've never handled the things, but I have seen pictures on Google Images which bear out my thinking. Not to mention pictures on the packaging!


I'm quite prepared to be proven wrong.


Perhaps Derek or Graham would like to add their comments and findings, having both used these wooden decks.


Enough rambling..


Ron

[Guest]

I'm glad you agree John, I didn't want to put any sort of damper on an excellent start to your build.
I have the Tamiya 1/350 KG5 on the stocks and I had a look at the wooden decks for this. Then had a look at the plastic kit deck'', and when painted / weathered, could look far more realistic than the 'wooden' offerings.


You make a good point about the thickness of these decks...I know they are thin, but surely when fixed to the plastic deck and over various bits, would that not make those items ( capstans, winches and the like, shorter than they actually are, not to mention perhaps hiding some lower detail...and what about where they go over the various mouldings? Would they not leave a gap, however small, between the surfaces that would need to be filled?


Having typed all that, I could be wrong as I've never handled the things, but I have seen pictures on Google Images which bear out my thinking. Not to mention pictures on the packaging!


I'm quite prepared to be proven wrong.


Perhaps Derek or Graham would like to add their comments and findings, having both used these wooden decks.


Enough rambling..


Ron

Well, I'm quite impressed with the accuracy of the cut-outs etc, but they take AGES to remove every little hole, and there's many of them, and that was just the superstructure! But, and it's a big but, although they are very thin, they have a tangible thickness that does impact on some of the deck fittings, so some adjustments would be called for. I'm already at my limits of skill on this model, and the decks just add more issues than i can get my head around at the moment!

[spanner570]

We all have our limitations, and far better to know and accept when that has been reached, rather than stubbornly carry on, only to perhaps make an irretrievable mistake later.


Apart from anything else, this game is supposed to be fun!

[Guest]

We all have our limitations, and far better to know and accept when that has been reached, rather than stubbornly carry on, only to perhaps make an irretrievable mistake later.
Apart from anything else, this game is supposed to be fun!

Ain't that the truth! Try as I might, I still daren't tackle the funnel baffles

[spanner570]

Simple answer...Don't! It's no big deal and by the time the funnel tops are weathered, I'll wager no one will ever know....except you and me.


Having written the above I presume the baffles are those cross lattice thingies inside the funnel tops?

[Guest]

Simple answer...Don't! It's no big deal and by the time the funnel tops are weathered, I'll wager no one will ever know....except you and me.
Having written the above I presume the baffles are those cross lattice thingies inside the funnel tops?

Yup, and they are nuts! They are pretty much fuse-wire in section, and need folding up and outwards, to then be attached to an oval of brass in 8 places. Even if I achieved this, the risk of ruining it on it's way to the funnel is def-con Red! I really do admire folks who have achieved this on this model - there's an extraordinary build log over on the Model shipwrights forum! http://www.bpmodels.net/Model/Dreadnought/Step49.JPG


But, and it is a big but, I am having fun achieving what I am achieving, I knew this was probably a daft kit to tackle for my first ship, but my PE work is constantly improving, and even if this ends up a dog's dinner, it'll owe me nowt, and will have taught me so much!

[spanner570]

Good man yer'self John!


I doubt I could even see the things let alone stick them together. I'm sure you will succeed - you certainly have the right attitude that's for sure.


I await the next update.