Mud techniques

[Guest]

I have a good mud tutorial which I used on the recent staghound build. Would it be best to put it here or make another thread?Stuart

I'll look forward to reading this! I've been collecting soil from the garden and will run it throug a fin sieve. I do agree it's good to keep the costs down, and somewhere amongst all my art gear I have loads of chalk pastels to try Monica's idea. All makes sense, all I have to do now is to experiment.

[Guest]

John the AFV DVD Acrylic Techniques DVD has mud stuff section etc

Laurie

[Guest]

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John the AFV DVD Acrylic Techniques DVD has mud stuff section etcLaurie

excellent! Have only got 15 minutes into it so far, will finish it off today, all being peaceful!

Meanwhile, have made my first mud mix from PVA, soil and 2 or3 colours of weathering powders. Tentatively applying it to my Bren carrier, and, so far, so good.

[colin m]

Looks like you've got the mud sorted. The only thing I can add is look at loads of reference pictures. Mud often ends up in some odd places.

[Guest]

Typically I now can't find the video!! The long and short of it is as follows: -

Dry mud

Mix a solution of

1 part acrylic matt varnish

1 part tap water

1 part pva glue

Stipple this onto the area you want to coat with mud.

Then dip the brush into pigments of desired colour and stipple onto the model until the glue mix is "saturated" with pigment and no longer looks wet.

Allow to dry and recoat if needed

Stuart

[Guest]

Wow John are you sure you are not kidding us about being a starter in model making.

That is looking very nice. Always smile when I see photos. Typical British Army form them selves in to little family groups. Self contianed units.

Laurie

[aaron]

Airbrushed pigments mixed with varnish, gives good control and can be put down from the finest "dust" to building it up into thick caked on mud.For really heavy mud you can mix the pigment poweders with varnish into a thick goop and brush is out onto the 'victim'.

Ian M

I'm tempted to try this Ian, is clean up just with water? This would be taking the first step of thinned tamiya buff to a new level if followed up with a pigment spray.

[Guest]

Wow John are you sure you are not kidding us about being a starter in model making.That is looking very nice. Always smile when I see photos. Typical British Army form them selves in to little family groups. Self contianed units.

Laurie

Ha ha! No, really, the fact that I've been fooling around with hairy sticks and paint for the best part of 45 years must be to my advantage, but thanks anyway! It's scary how quickly my dedicated digital video editing studio has become a proper man-cave, filled with paintbrushes, jars and all the other detritus we associate with modelling! I found myself, the other day thinking: "here I am, at 60, basically making mud pies!",

[tanktrack]

I use Vallejo white paste and add any mud colours to get the desired effect the paste looks like tooth paste with sand added and it can be diluted with water for different thicknesses

[Guest]

couldn't you just dig a mud patch in the garden add water to it and use it as needed then varnish it when it's dry ???

[aaron]

couldn't you just dig a mud patch in the garden add water to it and use it as needed then varnish it when it's dry ???

I'm a fan of using sifted dirt.

[takeslousyphotos]

I use the real stuff ground down and then sieved through an old pair of tights. This gives a very fine powder that is then mixed with Vallejo gloss/ semi gloss varnish. Using the real thing saves a bit of money and is always on tap no worry about running out half way through a job.

That's what I'd have thought ......... Using real Mud. It looks like Mud ....... and it's free

Peter

[monica]

well Peter ,Dave,there is one of the companies that do that very thing use real mud and sell it,

I have never used it myself,but,with us only having sandy soil,would be good to have some real mud

to use,

must find someone who lives out of town,and dose have soil,not sand,

couldn't you just dig a mud patch in the garden add water to it and use it as needed then varnish it when it's dry ???

That's what I'd have thought ......... Using real Mud. It looks like Mud ....... and it's free Peter

[Ian M]

I'm tempted to try this Ian, is clean up just with water?

I clean as normal as there is also varnish and or thinners in the mix. I start with a good flush with water. I have a squeeze bottle that I literally squirt the water into the bowl of the airbrush. Once 99% clean I get the last of it with the ab cleaners.

Ian M

[Ian M]

Being an art teacher John, I would have thought you would have also known the washing powder trick...

Cheap artists acrylics, mixed with soap powder makes a good "terrain" might be a bit thick for detailing a model, but great for a base.

(learned that from my art teacher )

Ian M