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  • Tim Marlow
    • Apr 2018
    • 18944
    • Tim
    • Somerset UK

    #16
    Not that I want to add to the confusion, but the box art vehicle definitely looks feldgrau compared to the panzergrau radio truck in the background. However, I am no expert, but have not come across German vehicles in feldgrau before. RLM 04 was a very common colour for Luftwaffe vehicles and aircraft, and that is quite feldgrau in appearance, so it may actually have been finished in RLM 04?
    Cheers
    Tim

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    • Gern
      • May 2009
      • 9254

      #17
      Originally posted by rickoshea52
      Come on then, which of these is NATO green and which is Field Grey?

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      Which field grey are we trying to find?:upside:

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      • rickoshea52
        SMF Supporters
        • Dec 2011
        • 4076
        • Rick

        #18
        Originally posted by Gern
        Which field grey are we trying to find?:upside:
        The armour is in XF-65 Field Grey (its not bl@@dy grey!) . I see a trip to Hobbycraft tomorrow.
        On the bench: Airfix 1/48 Sea King HC4, Revell 1/24 Trabant.
        Coming soon: Airfix 1/72 Phantom FGR2.
        Just finished: Airfix 1/48 Stuka & Airfix 1/72 Sea King HC4.

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        • Jon Heptonstall
          • Apr 2018
          • 1704

          #19
          I don't think you really want to be using field grey do you? Do you?
          Seriously though, is it a Wehrmacht vehicle?
          Jon.

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          • Gern
            • May 2009
            • 9254

            #20
            Ho boy! My head hurts! XF 65 doesn't look that green in the bottle!

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            • Jon Heptonstall
              • Apr 2018
              • 1704

              #21
              I'm trying to think of any reason why this wouldn't be the standard German dunkel grau RAL 7021. I think this particular schlepper was for the Karl- Gerät.
              Jon.

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              • SimonT
                • Apr 2018
                • 2824

                #22
                I'm with Jon - normal dark grey seems most likely

                Feld grau was for uniforms and helmets or pre war staff cars and motorcycles

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                • Gern
                  • May 2009
                  • 9254

                  #23
                  Just checked Vallejo's online conversion chart. According to that, their conversion from 71.056, RAL 7021, is XF 69 - Nato Black!

                  Our checking so far then, has returned Feld Grau as either medium green or black according to manufacturer's references.

                  Maybe I was right in my earlier post - pick a medium/dark grey you're happy with and go with it!

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                  • Gern
                    • May 2009
                    • 9254

                    #24
                    Have a look at VMA 71.049. They call it Medium Sea Grey but it could be just what you're looking for.

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                    • SimonT
                      • Apr 2018
                      • 2824

                      #25
                      VJ 70.995 German Grey

                      Tamiya XF63

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                      • rickoshea52
                        SMF Supporters
                        • Dec 2011
                        • 4076
                        • Rick

                        #26
                        This is XF-22, a bit better and more grey but not as light as I thought it ought to be.
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                        On the bench: Airfix 1/48 Sea King HC4, Revell 1/24 Trabant.
                        Coming soon: Airfix 1/72 Phantom FGR2.
                        Just finished: Airfix 1/48 Stuka & Airfix 1/72 Sea King HC4.

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                        • rickoshea52
                          SMF Supporters
                          • Dec 2011
                          • 4076
                          • Rick

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Gern
                          Have a look at VMA 71.049. They call it Medium Sea Grey but it could be just what you're looking for.
                          Now I have this shade, I think it is sometimes called Engine Grey.
                          On the bench: Airfix 1/48 Sea King HC4, Revell 1/24 Trabant.
                          Coming soon: Airfix 1/72 Phantom FGR2.
                          Just finished: Airfix 1/48 Stuka & Airfix 1/72 Sea King HC4.

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                          • Gern
                            • May 2009
                            • 9254

                            #28
                            Well fancy that! You found a shade of grey that really IS grey! I use XF 22 as RLM 02 for cockpits and I'm quite happy with that.

                            The two pieces at the back of the picture look slightly too dark (I guess that's due to the fact they're further away from the light) but the main body looks just about right to me.

                            Question is though, are YOU happy with it?

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                            • Dave Ward
                              • Apr 2018
                              • 10549

                              #29
                              Dave,
                              I'm afraid you have been barking up the wrong tree, due to the Trumpeter instructions being incorrect!. They do call for 'Field Grey', when they should be calling out 'Panzer Grey' - the std. base colour for all German tanks until the introduction of 'dark yellow'.
                              Field grey was the term applied to the uniforms worn by the Wehrmacht. Panzer Grey is a very common colour offered by all the paint makers. - I use Vallejo 71.056 Panzer Dark Grey, which is a good base for modulation!
                              Dave

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                              • spanner570
                                • May 2009
                                • 15482

                                #30
                                Poor Rick.
                                Dave Ward is stop on.....Panzer Grey not Field Grey.

                                Anyway, whats the breeze re- getting the right shade? Even the paint would be slightly different shades in the tin, depending on the manufacturer.

                                Add such things as the weather, sun bleaching, mud splashes, dust, wear and tear, touching up the old paintwork, how many coats has been applied and how thick etc, etc.,it doesn't matter, as long as the shade is something like. The vehicle itself will have different shades depending on the surfaces exposure to the elements and abrasive reaction - and big boots!

                                I could go on but I think you get the picture......

                                Just get it something like. There again I'm just a near enough merchant!

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