discussion Billings HMS Victory

[Guest]

Paul, Have a look at this website re-planking. Cheers Derek

USS Constitution, United States Frigate, 1797 Planking Process

 

[Guest]

Hi Paul,The build looks great! Very nice work with the gallery. I took your advice with the admiralty paints - its such a painstaking process getting the colour just right (and uniform!) if you've watered down the mix.

In case you missed it, i'm also making a build log; i'm slightly behind you but it may be of some use to you sometime. The link for the thread is: http://www.scale-models.co.uk/general-boat-chat/19238-cadgeys-billing-hms-victory.html#post167317

Keep up the good work,

Sam

Thanks Sam... I know what you mean about matching the paint. I found if I wanted a uniform finish I just made lots of that colour, but I like a subtle difference in colour across the different decking.

I looked at the decking on the Victory herself and noticed the different decks were slightly different shades. I guess with the elements and seawater or lack of changes their appearance.

Paul

 

[Guest]

Hi Paul,The build looks great! Very nice work with the gallery. I took your advice with the admiralty paints - its such a painstaking process getting the colour just right (and uniform!) if you've watered down the mix.

In case you missed it, i'm also making a build log; i'm slightly behind you but it may be of some use to you sometime. The link for the thread is: http://www.scale-models.co.uk/general-boat-chat/19238-cadgeys-billing-hms-victory.html#post167317

Keep up the good work,

Sam

Thanks Sam... I know what you mean about matching the paint. I found if I wanted a uniform finish I just made lots of that colour, but I like a subtle difference in colour across the different decking.

I looked at the decking on the Victory herself and noticed the different decks were slightly different shades. I guess with the elements and seawater or lack of changes their appearance.

Paul

 

[Guest]

Hi Paul, nice work on the planking, its all loking very nice and accurate. I was wondering if you could upload a few photos of the kit contents/parts. I am looking to buy the billings victory after my current ship is complete! Thanks very much,

Pete

 

[Guest]

Hi all... No probs Pete I will put some on now.

I am still on with the planking obviously... I think this is going to take some time. I have found that soaking the planks in water overnight and using a small kitchen steamer for the extreme bends has worked quite well.

Its a bit of trial and error as I said previously this is a new one for me.

Here are some pics.

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As you can see its a bit rough at the moment as I haven't rubbed any of it down.

Paul

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[Guest]

Hi Paul, nice work on the planking, its all loking very nice and accurate. I was wondering if you could upload a few photos of the kit contents/parts. I am looking to buy the billings victory after my current ship is complete! Thanks very much,Pete

Here are a couple of the remaining contents of the kit Pete..... Still a fair bit left

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[Guest]

looks like a timber yard lol,good progress so far

mobear

 

[Guest]

Coming along great. keep up the good work.

Andy

 

[Guest]

Hi folks.... Still ongoing with the Planking, most of the lower hull is done and the planks are now past the Wales.

I might be completely wrong here but on the upper section of the hull to the bottom of the Wales do you plank from the Deck down to the completed lower hull planking? Or just carry om planking from the keel up to the Decks?

I know that sounds like rubbish lol

Just found this link on how to Plank Boats... pretty comprehensive to say the least. Downloads as a PDF.

http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CC8QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fmodelshipworldforum.com%2Fresources%2FFraming_and_Planking%2Fplankingprojectbeginners.pdf&ei=MTr9UYrDFMXa0QWFxYH4CQ&usg=AFQjCNG_bjD-yBKre4UG7l32q07GjeOl-w&bvm=bv.50165853,d.d2k

Paul

 

[Guest]

Paul,

very interested to see how you are tackling the planking, I am just about to start this, but am having difficulty in working out how the stern goes, there doesn't seem to be any drawing, photos of the stern area to give a clue, how did you approach it?

Rusty

 

[Guest]

Paul,very interested to see how you are tackling the planking, I am just about to start this, but am having difficulty in working out how the stern goes, there doesn't seem to be any drawing, photos of the stern area to give a clue, how did you approach it?

Rusty

Hi Rusty.... I started from the Keel upwards. I have soaked the Planks in the bath overnight and have found this to be helpful in bending them. On the Stern I have let them take a natural course and trimmed off the excess off when dry. When starting from the keel they have bowing out and when it came to bending them around the frame steaming them and pinning in place. I decided to plank horizontally along the Whales and join just below.

Here is a picture of the progress and a reference shot I found on the Internet.





When all the planking is in place I am going to Plane the extreme edges off, small amounts of Filler and them sand smooth. That's after cutting out all those Gunports....

Paul

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[Guest]

hi paul here is a little cheat when planking, if you have little gaps to filll in, lie your shlp on its side. get your spare bits of wood, put pva glue in gap, use sandpaper to put sawdust in gap. leave to dry overnight . sand off with fine sandpaper leaving a nice filled gap good luck regards rob

 

[Guest]

hi paul here is a little cheat when planking, if you have little gaps to filll in, lie your shlp on its side. get your spare bits of wood, put pva glue in gap, use sandpaper to put sawdust in gap. leave to dry overnight . sand off with fine sandpaper leaving a nice filled gap good luck regards rob

Paul,

thanks for the info, I am finding this build quite a challenge and your photos have helped a lot

Rusty

 

[Guest]

hi paul here is a little cheat when planking, if you have little gaps to filll in, lie your shlp on its side. get your spare bits of wood, put pva glue in gap, use sandpaper to put sawdust in gap. leave to dry overnight . sand off with fine sandpaper leaving a nice filled gap good luck regards rob

Thanks for that, just tried that it works really well!

 

[Guest]

Paul,thanks for the info, I am finding this build quite a challenge and your photos have helped a lot

Rusty

No problems I am glad they helped. I am no expert at this so hoping I get it right

I have been cutting out the Gunports and putting more of the planking up the hull. Just had to stop until the glue dry's.





Paul

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[Guest]

hi paul, here is another tip a little further into your project. when you come to your rigging i.e tying knots from location to location . when you have them where you need them held in place permantely held, dont use superglue. use cheap clear nail varnish with cocktail stick. blow on it to set holding tension on tweezers

 

[Guest]

hi paul i have done a few pof models. also was a plater/ shipwright in shipyards many moons ago very happy to help. here is another tip if you do another ship kit. try and research your project on line or in library be surprised how you can beef up your detail it to a superb model regards rob

 

[Guest]

hi paul, here is another tip a little further into your project. when you come to your rigging i.e tying knots from location to location . when you have them where you need them held in place permantely held, dont use superglue. use cheap clear nail varnish with cocktail stick. blow on it to set holding tension on tweezers

Thanks I will try that.... seems ages away yet but will get there in the end.

What yard were you in? Tyne or Wear?

 

[Guest]

i worked in both yards on the tees . swan hunters and smiths dock to finish my time swans was my favourite holiday camp. Oh well happy days! Let me know if you need anymore help. also remmember keep workin g both sides at same time keeps the job right regards rob

 

[Adrian "Marvel" Reynolds]

I've just got hold of this kit as well, its part made up to planking the hull. I'm daunted by the work I will have to put in !!!! Oh well one day I'll get round to it I guess

Adrian