COMIN ON GREAT Doug pity you dont fit in some motors an an lights an such
chrisb
chrisb
Doug's 1/48 Airfix Sea King
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G
Looking good Doug, hope the cotton wool worked .
G
Oi! you leave us scratchbuilders alone, we are all very happy in our world of sanding dust and plastic off cuts...
(This reply was put together from old washing up bottles, sellotape, old gum and hope.)
I hope no-one was hurt in the making of that statement!!!!
I'll stick to plastic without electrickery thank you. That can be challenging enough at times.
:smiling3:
A bit more fiddling today.
I actually tackled the seats today!!
Pic 1
Under that blob of SWMBO's cotton wool is a seat. I think I may have overdone the amount needed!! First was a blob of PVA over the seat base. Then pressed the cotton wool into place!! I did five but only four will be used.
Pic 2
The cotton wool was teemed and cut down short, really short!! Then, a daubing of a light yellow was applied. A thin covering of plastic was placed over the cotton wool and then compressed using the grips. Hopefully I'll have a picture tonight after they have been under compression for a good few hours.
Pic 3.
Close up of a single seat!
Prior to the seats I had dabbled with my 3mm plastic sheet I had acquired from SMS. Using my previous paper template I cut out a new stiffer sea tray substitute. and tried it for size. I trimmed the sides and dry fitted the bulkheads to ensure it wasn't too large and wouldn't fit properly.
Pic 4
Pic 5
Another angle.
The plan is to trim down a wee bit more all around and fi a small lip at 90 degrees totes flat surface to replicate the sea tray!!
That's for another day.
Dog walking then took over my time so that's it for today!!
Oh! I did paint some aluminium on the sonar transducer and seat support!!!
I actually tackled the seats today!!
Pic 1
Under that blob of SWMBO's cotton wool is a seat. I think I may have overdone the amount needed!! First was a blob of PVA over the seat base. Then pressed the cotton wool into place!! I did five but only four will be used.
Pic 2
The cotton wool was teemed and cut down short, really short!! Then, a daubing of a light yellow was applied. A thin covering of plastic was placed over the cotton wool and then compressed using the grips. Hopefully I'll have a picture tonight after they have been under compression for a good few hours.
Pic 3.
Close up of a single seat!
Prior to the seats I had dabbled with my 3mm plastic sheet I had acquired from SMS. Using my previous paper template I cut out a new stiffer sea tray substitute. and tried it for size. I trimmed the sides and dry fitted the bulkheads to ensure it wasn't too large and wouldn't fit properly.
Pic 4
Pic 5
Another angle.
The plan is to trim down a wee bit more all around and fi a small lip at 90 degrees totes flat surface to replicate the sea tray!!
That's for another day.
Dog walking then took over my time so that's it for today!!
Oh! I did paint some aluminium on the sonar transducer and seat support!!!
An evening update.
Removed the clamps from the seats. I think they'll need a bid of final tidying up. Trimming the sides. But I think it captures roughly the correct texture. What do you think? It's supposed to replicate lambswool!
Pic 1
Pic 2
The seat backs need painting a blue/grey colour and then inserting into the seat pans. A tomorrow job!!
Removed the clamps from the seats. I think they'll need a bid of final tidying up. Trimming the sides. But I think it captures roughly the correct texture. What do you think? It's supposed to replicate lambswool!
Pic 1
Pic 2
The seat backs need painting a blue/grey colour and then inserting into the seat pans. A tomorrow job!!
I thought these would turn out too fluffy, but they look just fine to me.
Pete
Pete
Thanks Pete. I admit I thought they may too. I plucked as much as I thought was needed. The dabbed paint on them, while the paint was drying I then placed a thin piece of plastic over each seat and then clamped them. As an experiment the outcome isn’t too bad!!! I hope!!
Sacrificed my PS5 time tonight to work on the seats. (Busy day as we're off out tomorrow).
Don't know why I painted the lambswool seat covers yellow!! Must have been the gin I was going to drink last night! So today I changed the yellow to white. Then trimmed the cotton wool. Hopefully they won't look like new fluffed up lambswool. After a short while the wool flattened and with various naval rear ends sat on them for hour after hour they went an off white quickly.
The seat backs were painted a dark grey, and the frames a lighter grey. Once the paint was dry(ish) the seat inserts were placed into the seat pans. Left to dry fully.
Not a lot but it spanned a couple of hours which was luckily over SWMBO's telly time. (Masked Singer). So that was a small mercy.
Pic.
Seats assembled awaiting progress with the rest of the model.
Don't know why I painted the lambswool seat covers yellow!! Must have been the gin I was going to drink last night! So today I changed the yellow to white. Then trimmed the cotton wool. Hopefully they won't look like new fluffed up lambswool. After a short while the wool flattened and with various naval rear ends sat on them for hour after hour they went an off white quickly.
The seat backs were painted a dark grey, and the frames a lighter grey. Once the paint was dry(ish) the seat inserts were placed into the seat pans. Left to dry fully.
Not a lot but it spanned a couple of hours which was luckily over SWMBO's telly time. (Masked Singer). So that was a small mercy.
Pic.
Seats assembled awaiting progress with the rest of the model.
@rickoshea52 Rick, any idea exactly where the standby compass, (E2B) was in the cockpit?
Also, any idea what was the purpose of the two probes in the centre windscreen? (Piccy below). (Easy enough to replicate - after 30 + years brain is rapidly turning to custard). I know it's not the ice accretion sensor, that was under the port side co-pilots side window!
Thanks in advance.
Doug
Also, any idea what was the purpose of the two probes in the centre windscreen? (Piccy below). (Easy enough to replicate - after 30 + years brain is rapidly turning to custard). I know it's not the ice accretion sensor, that was under the port side co-pilots side window!
Thanks in advance.
Doug
Outside Air Temperature (OAT) was one of them, not sure if there were two temp probes though.
From memory, I think the standby compass was mounted on a small bracket on one of the front screens. I’d need to see a reference photo of the cockpit.
Edit: They are both OAT sensors I think. One has an electrical cannon plug so must be for anti-icing or instrumentation while the other is mechanically actuated by a bourden tube to move a needle on the gauge mounted inside the windscreen.
I also found a photo I took at Morayvia last summer that shows the standby compass as fitted to a HAR3.
From memory, I think the standby compass was mounted on a small bracket on one of the front screens. I’d need to see a reference photo of the cockpit.
Edit: They are both OAT sensors I think. One has an electrical cannon plug so must be for anti-icing or instrumentation while the other is mechanically actuated by a bourden tube to move a needle on the gauge mounted inside the windscreen.
I also found a photo I took at Morayvia last summer that shows the standby compass as fitted to a HAR3.
Excellent Rick. As soon as you said OAT I started kicking myself!!! How did I forget!!!!!!
Nice pic of the E2B, complete with calibration card too!! Don't think I'll be going to the lengths of the calibration card though!
Oooo, what a day I had. Well the time on the Sea King anyway.
All seat related. Thought I'd have a dabble with a bit of novice scratchery!!!!
The seat belts which I obtained from Hanna's are the Eduard steel type. However!! There is a vital piece missing. The inertia reels at rear of the seats. Thanks to the Ch2 track links again, I created 4 reels. Bit of filing down, how I did that without losing one to the awaiting puppy who was willing one to ping off onto the floor and into her I will never know.
Pic 1.
The essential parts, 1 seat, a couple of track links. The end pieces were then removed to be converted!
Pic 2.
The two converted link ends now acting as an inertia reel and placed on the seat back. This was then repeated for all the seats.
Pic 3.
All done and white plastic wear plates painted onto the top of the seat back. This was to reduce wear on the straps as they passed over the seat back. (No straps fitted yet!!)
The next project was to produce a 'jump seat' which sat just aft of the cockpit and was usually a foot rest for us back seaters who ventured up front to point the pilots in the right direction! (sad but true).
Pic of what I'm talking about.
First off, cut a 8mm x 6mm piece of 0.3mm card. And again using remnants of the Challenger build I cut the front and rear seat frames!!
Pic 4
Pic 5, then the side frame was added!
Pic 6. The rear was then cut to allow it to fit around the 'P' tube. It was easier to cut the seat than modify the 'P' tube! Here it is dry fitted to check on seat height.
Pic 7
Utilising some more plastic from the Ch2 I made the seat struts. That's it for today, cheffing duties caught up with me so I'll hopefully get to paint it tomorrow.
Comments and criticisms most welcome, (seriously), as this is my first serious scratch building. So if you're still here thank you muchley!!
All seat related. Thought I'd have a dabble with a bit of novice scratchery!!!!
The seat belts which I obtained from Hanna's are the Eduard steel type. However!! There is a vital piece missing. The inertia reels at rear of the seats. Thanks to the Ch2 track links again, I created 4 reels. Bit of filing down, how I did that without losing one to the awaiting puppy who was willing one to ping off onto the floor and into her I will never know.
Pic 1.
The essential parts, 1 seat, a couple of track links. The end pieces were then removed to be converted!
Pic 2.
The two converted link ends now acting as an inertia reel and placed on the seat back. This was then repeated for all the seats.
Pic 3.
All done and white plastic wear plates painted onto the top of the seat back. This was to reduce wear on the straps as they passed over the seat back. (No straps fitted yet!!)
The next project was to produce a 'jump seat' which sat just aft of the cockpit and was usually a foot rest for us back seaters who ventured up front to point the pilots in the right direction! (sad but true).
Pic of what I'm talking about.
First off, cut a 8mm x 6mm piece of 0.3mm card. And again using remnants of the Challenger build I cut the front and rear seat frames!!
Pic 4
Pic 5, then the side frame was added!
Pic 6. The rear was then cut to allow it to fit around the 'P' tube. It was easier to cut the seat than modify the 'P' tube! Here it is dry fitted to check on seat height.
Pic 7
Utilising some more plastic from the Ch2 I made the seat struts. That's it for today, cheffing duties caught up with me so I'll hopefully get to paint it tomorrow.
Comments and criticisms most welcome, (seriously), as this is my first serious scratch building. So if you're still here thank you muchley!!
G
You‘re doing very well, especially in finding ways to repurpose bits from entirely different types of kit 
As I'm finding chaps.
A maybe silly question: isn't the P tube a tad high?
Considering its name, shape and position, I came to the conclusion its function is to ease the crew bladders, heavily challenged by the vibrations and cold during long flights.
If I'm right, then or the users had to bend their head and raise on their feet to reach it or the tube is not fixed but detachable to be bent to the needed height...
If I'm wrong and the P tube has a different use, then this is a first class silly question :smiling6:
Considering its name, shape and position, I came to the conclusion its function is to ease the crew bladders, heavily challenged by the vibrations and cold during long flights.
If I'm right, then or the users had to bend their head and raise on their feet to reach it or the tube is not fixed but detachable to be bent to the needed height...
If I'm wrong and the P tube has a different use, then this is a first class silly question :smiling6:
The relief tube is retained by a clip on the side of the broom cupboard door. Undo oneself, undo the tube, relieve oneself and get back to flying.
Edit: deleted incorrect statement.
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