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Dragon Tiger 1 Initial Production.

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They are on amazon.com and amazon uk, though on amazon uk one book is going for over £900 (new !) what the f
This is also a great book for painting and weathering;


http://www.amazon.co.uk/Painting-guide-Jose-Luis-Lopez/dp/2352503876/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1451557324&sr=8-1&keywords=painting+guide+for+afv
It's nuts, self written, designed and published, this is a wonderful book, vol 2 was the last available, and my copy was a thumbed copy that Phoebe persuaded the shop to part with!! This is part of the reason I've just spent most of the day driving her back to London, 4 hours on the A12 I'll never get back...


Anybody remotely interested in painting armour should swap their left leg for one of these, I'm,gonna hunt the German armour one down, my mission for next year!
 
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All primed up and ready for painting and weathering. Note the primed milk bottle, I'm gonna try out some paint techniques on it - mostly inspired by the Michael Rinaldi's book, and Grumpa's 'dozer thread!


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Does that kit not come with engine grilles John?
Nope! And to be honest, I can't find any that are guaranteed to fit, and as everything is online, I can't see what I'm buying, very frustrating. I've googled and searched everywhere for engine grilles for the Initial production tiger and come up with a blank! If I thought the engine and fan compartments were common to all models, I'd take a punt, but I don't know. Also, I'm not even sure the initial release had them - they certainly didn't have a lot of the stuff that subsequent versions had! Happy to be informed on this!
 
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Looking nice ( lots of detail ) looking forward to see west you do with the camo???
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Well, it's going to be grey, #100, but I intend to make it pretty filthy, from almost all of the photos I've seen of early tigers in action, they looked plastered in Eartha Kitt, caked on the wheels and liberally spread over most of the hull! I'm stocking up on many new pigments, and am willing to be a bit daring with the rendering. Nothing ventured, nothing gained eh?
 
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Nope! And to be honest, I can't find any that are guaranteed to fit, and as everything is online, I can't see what I'm buying, very frustrating. I've googled and searched everywhere for engine grilles for the Initial production tiger and come up with a blank! If I thought the engine and fan compartments were common to all models, I'd take a punt, but I don't know. Also, I'm not even sure the initial release had them - they certainly didn't have a lot of the stuff that subsequent versions had! Happy to be informed on this!
Well I wouldn't want to say for certain, but my feeling is that all Tigers had engine grilles. Those large gaps on the engine deck are broken ankles just waiting to happen!


There's a couple of pics on this very useful site that show early Tigers with what I believe are grilles.


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Here's the site link in case you haven't seen it yourself


http://www.alanhamby.com/tiger.html


There is a cheap way to add engine grilles. I bought a frying pan splatter guard from a Poundshop & cut it up for my E-50 build. I thought it worked quite well


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Obviously it's not vital.... but exposed engine decks are a bit of a bugbear of mine!
 
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Just caught up with this John and it is coming along very nicely.
 
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It looks great now, and as Patrick says, you can try like, because it has been very good (and cheap lol), I also did it with my Panther and is very worthy, Greetings
 
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Well I wouldn't want to say for certain, but my feeling is that all Tigers had engine grilles. Those large gaps on the engine deck are broken ankles just waiting to happen!
There's a couple of pics on this very useful site that show early Tigers with what I believe are grilles.


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Here's the site link in case you haven't seen it yourself


http://www.alanhamby.com/tiger.html


There is a cheap way to add engine grilles. I bought a frying pan splatter guard from a Poundshop & cut it up for my E-50 build. I thought it worked quite well


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Obviously it's not vital.... but exposed engine decks are a bit of a bugbear of mine!
That's a cracking idea! I'm also hoping that somewhere, someone makes a generic sheet of grill etch, a bit like the ship railings you can buy. With a bit of thin plasticard, it'd be a piece of piss to make these! But my irritation is mostly pointed at Dragon, who always seemed to supply at least the basic etch in their kits, removing a sizeable box of high quality metal parts - shackles, a bucket, alloy barrel, brass ammo, smoke launchers etc without cutting a penny off the price, has NOT endeared me to them!
 
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That's a cracking idea! I'm also hoping that somewhere, someone makes a generic sheet of grill etch, a bit like the ship railings you can buy. With a bit of thin plasticard, it'd be a piece of piss to make these! But my irritation is mostly pointed at Dragon, who always seemed to supply at least the basic etch in their kits, removing a sizeable box of high quality metal parts - shackles, a bucket, alloy barrel, brass ammo, smoke launchers etc without cutting a penny off the price, has NOT endeared me to them!
you're right, it is assumed that a brand / model that category should include all that, and if there be cheaper ....


I therefore, when starting to buy models before will look good including as extras, sure you get a good model, Greetings
 
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you're right, it is assumed that a brand / model that category should include all that, and if there be cheaper ....
I therefore, when starting to buy models before will look good including as extras, sure you get a good model, Greetings
I did mate! I trawled through all the reviews, and made my decision based upon these findings. Hannants informed me that Dragon play this game a lot - release a kit full of goodies and extras, let the reviews run, then change the specs without any warning or price reduction! I watched a YouTube vid the other day by a guy talking about all the Dragon versions of the Tiger, and the shenanigans that ensued over different versions, I'll find the link and post it here, it's very interesting viewing! I can't deny that this is a beautiful kit, and the detail and quality are really top notch, but at £59 it is very pricey. But I specifically wanted to build an initial production model, and this was the one to build. At least my missus bought it, so the wallet sting isn't quite so painful ;) . And I'm gonna Really enjoy painting it!
 
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I did mate! I trawled through all the reviews, and made my decision based upon these findings. Hannants informed me that Dragon play this game a lot - release a kit full of goodies and extras, let the reviews run, then change the specs without any warning or price reduction! I watched a YouTube vid the other day by a guy talking about all the Dragon versions of the Tiger, and the shenanigans that ensued over different versions, I'll find the link and post it here, it's very interesting viewing! I can't deny that this is a beautiful kit, and the detail and quality are really top notch, but at £59 it is very pricey. But I specifically wanted to build an initial production model, and this was the one to build. At least my missus bought it, so the wallet sting isn't quite so painful ;) . And I'm gonna Really enjoy painting it!
Well, it's really expensive (and more if you turn it into euro :confused:...), if ever you notice any instructions appliance purchases, there is a phrase that is repeated in all, no matter who is the manufacturer is It allows the right to change article specificaions without notice .... terribly wrong, but this is really what consumers care about.:mad:


Cheers John ;)
 
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Well, after going around in circles for an hour yesterday, I took a punt on an Eduard grill set for Tamiya Tiger - £2.99 from eBay, and guess what?


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They fit like a glove! Thanks Internet for sharing that with me.....not!


I kind of figured that they should, but life is often not like that...
 
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