discussion German grey. + Whitewash.

[Ian M]

So I find myself pushed into a Russian front in the snow type dilemma and need a push in the right direction.
My 'paint guide' calls for a washable white over dark grey. By this I guess they are referring to the whitewash that was used over the German/Panzer grey.
Which greys are suitable as Panzer grey and what to use for the whitewash.
What is the best method to age the whitewash.
Other things I should know....weathering tips and the such.

Would prefer Vallejo but AK and mig can also come to the party. (if they have to).

 

[Dave Ward]

Ian,
I use Vallejo 995 German Grey for any tanks. The whitewash is much more problematical - I've run into the same problem, with whitewashed Russian aircraft. First a gloss varnish coat, so things can be wiped off. I've used a white ( any will do ) with a touch of grey ( just to take the brightness off ), well diluted, not only with water, but with varnish, to try and keep the viscosity up you can airbrush this, but you have to do it in thin layers. It's very difficult to judge when to stop!. It may be easier to brush paint a tank - with aircraft the streaks run along the surfaces, tanks they go with gravity. I found it difficult to visualise the final result, never having seen anything in this form of whitewash, in person, or good contemporary colour photos! Most of these whitewashes were applied in the field, so it would depend on what brushes were available ( if any ), how much time they had, and the whims of the commander!
Dave

 

[Guest]

Hi Ian .
As Dave says most were applied in the field no doubt most by hand .
I've used Precision Ice and Snow white camo
with reasonable results,but any water washable white would do .
I think the thing to remember this was substance that could and did get washed and removed by contact , so the coverage is not to any standard

 

[Andy the Sheep]

Ian, I can only subscribe what has been said above.
I've used artist water based acrylic paint splashed merciless with an old flat brush over a base of Tamiya acrylics (it was dunkelgelb for a 1/76 resin Panther and Mr. Race favourite shade of green for a 1/72 T34).
Then I lightly rubbed and weathered the white coat to bring back details and to reproduce the wearing down of the whitewash on the field.

Andrea

 

[minitnkr]

Mops, brooms & rags have all been used to apply as durabiity was not an issue and removal in the spring wanted to be easy.

 

[langy71]

For the white wash I've used this before, very easy to use, almost too easy,
spray it on, then wash down with a wet brush to remove as much or as little as you need...

Mig washable white

 

[AlanG]

What is the best method to age the whitewash.

Would prefer Vallejo but AK and mig can also come to the party. (if they have to).

https://www.scalemodelshop.co.uk/17ml-washable-white-camo-ammo-mig-0024-p9698/


** Just noticed Chris above has said mentioned the same paint **

 

[spanner570]

Ian, I use Vallejo Air Aged white 71132.

After reading your reply below, I've removed all the dross about how to paint it on......

 

[Ian M]

Thanks for the feedback .
I know how to paint it, just not what to paint it with.

 

[Guest]

I would just use white paint and apply it sloppily much like a real crew would. Yes, you could do it the artistic way so that you will replicate a slapdash finish with great care, but I don’t have the patience for that Best guide is to find a decent photo of a real vehicle that has been whitewashed, and paint what you see there — and the parts you can’t in a similar style, of course.

 

[Allen Dewire]

Ian,

AK 11372 is called Washable White Paint, in their 3rd Gen acrylic series. I haven't tried it yet but imagine it would do the trick for you. Thin it with water or use it straight out of the bottle for your whitewash. Just a thought...

Prost
Allen

 

[Mini Me]

If you are looking for a worn effect Ian, you want some of the wash to stay on the vehicle....gloss coat will not give you the transitional tones required to make it look effectively worn. I went over my pz. grey base with the Vallejo foundation white. I let it set a few minutes then started scrubbing it off with a stiff brush and water. It's ok to thin your white but not too runny. As always, practice on a scrap model etc. before attempting on the actual vehicle. Remember the most coverage will remain in the most protected areas, just like the real thing. here is an example of what I'm referring to.

 

[Ian M]

Thanks chaps
Think I got this covered now.

 

[AlanG]

Think I got this covered now.

No pun intended? lol

 

[langy71]

Having a look around the net and found this by 'Martin Kovac..aka Night Shift', it's well worth a watch..

 

[Ian M]

Ammo washable white....Paint on let dry wash off....just. if scrub at it or use a jet washer.... but I got there in the end.

Having a look around the net and found this by 'Martin Kovac..aka Night Shift', it's well worth a watch..

Know Martin and his site. watch it a lot.