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The worst thing is, even if they got caught, we are the ones who will pay for their holidays, commonly called prison.I'd really like to go back to medieval times and public display of people like this, so you can throw rotten vegetables at them. If prison and fines seem not to work, so maybe public humiliation will work?[/quo

Unfortunately The do gooders and human rights people would say it was wrong to treat someone like this these days. The scum bags that do stuff like this do not think about the rights human or other of those they perpatrate these crimes against. They should be made to do work in the community wearing bright orange grow bags with crim written in bold lettering front and back. We all know this will never happen because we as a country are to bloody soft. We have become a yes nation that bends to nearly every whim thrown at us from Europe and other countries that won't do what they expect us to.
 
i like your thinking there yes prison is just a holiday camp at best, a learn your craft(how not to get caught) better at worst .
 
In Jan, 2008, I was sharing the rent on a 2 bdrm apartment with my brother. We'd been there for about 9 months, when i came home from work one night in Feb to find the locks had been changed. We had been thrown out for "Non payment of rent"!

As it came about, my 'brother' had been not paying rent back in Nov or maybe Oct 2007. He was taking my share of the cash and spending it how he pleased (wine, women and song), and let me live under the assumption that all is ok.

I called him that night, as he was living with his mistress (why he stopped paying rent, ultimately) and told him what happened. Thrown out. Locks changed.

He grows angry and incredulous and says "They can't do that"!!

.....uuuuuuh, well...they did.

That's not all they did. while the bailiffs and and his crew went through the place while we were out, they stole my transit fare (a full book of tickets, good for a week) and about 18.00 I had on a nightstand. Now that's violation for you! It still chokes me up to think about it.

He cleaned about 5000.00 from my wife's life savings to pay that debt, and he still won't own up to it. Now he's trying to claim that the money was a gift and to expect us to have him pay it back is unreasonable, and always was.

I'm like, well, you could have said "No" to the money at any time prior to us handing it over, but you didn't. You could have said (if what you are saying now is true) "guys, if you give me this cash, it's gone. I will never pay it back and will hate you if you ask me to".

And we'd say "ok, I understand, you cannot have any money, solve this problem yourself".

He knew what was on the line. What a scumbag. It gets worse but is not relevant to this situation.

That was our travelling fund, and because of that, we are now trapped here in this city, pretty much unable to move. Still trying to get out of that trough...
 
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The worst thing is, even if they got caught, we are the ones who will pay for their holidays, commonly called prison.I'd really like to go back to medieval times and public display of people like this, so you can throw rotten vegetables at them. If prison and fines seem not to work, so maybe public humiliation will work?
Human rights! Where was the rights of the victims. To many do Gooders ' they are human beings, can't treat them like animals'...yes you fricking can! They are animals! Our country has been allowed to be bent over and take it from Europe...where is the Great in Britain??? A country run by muppet! :mad:

Lee :)
 
If ever the argument where some liberal fascist says it's because of society just point out it's a society made by middle class liberals like them so they are the cause.

This is what happens when you get rid of discipline !
 
I served my country, as did many of us...For what??? :confused:

Lee :)
 
i really cant comment on this without launching into a torrent of ffffffs. hope all this gets resolved happily for you mate.
 
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i really cant comment on this without launching into a torrent of ffffffs. hope all this gets resolved happily for you mate.
...go for it!...
 
Do they have these issues in Singapore where people get caned? Or Saudi Arabia where they cut off your non-toilet hand? No need to go back to Victorian punishments, but maybe if prison was indeed a basic cell with bread and water with an hour of exercise a day, rather than modern amenities and roast dinners and cable TV, then it would at least make even an opportunist criminal think twice. As it is in many western countries they laugh at the Police and happily go through the motions of the system if they are caught.
 
Great Britain ha! Nothing great about it anymore it's been brought to its knees. The cities and towns are now the worst places to live I will be leaving my place of birth (B"ham ) ASAP already looking at places to escape to after slowly watching my neighbourhood go down the pan . I hate this dog eat dog world I'm living in what happened to respect honour empathy manners to mention a few of the values that have now disappeared .To all those who served their country you have my greatest respect but as Lee said for what . I worked for HMS prison services for a number of years and have 1st hand knowledge of many prisons in and around the uk and as already been said it's like butlins holiday camp with many repeat offenders after a nice place to live and sleep with 3 meals a day. Would love to bring back my great grandfather and see is reaction to GB now . I'm really sorry Gregg about your mothers situation and hope your problems are sorted very soon .This island we all live on is not going to get any better but feel it's going to get a lot worse as time goes by I'm so glad I was born in the 1960s and have a few memories of what a decent place this used to be I fear for my great grandchildren have to stop here as a could go on and on .......................................................
 
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Many thanks for you posts of concern and support, they are greatly appreciated.

The police finally arrived on Thursday night, but commented that although they may have an idea who is responsible.

Proving it is another matter.

But we have been invited to attend a local walk in 'Advice on security meeting' next week.

I contacted the council about the individual upstairs, quoting the tenancy agreement regards security of the block. And the fact he is the person responsible for the lack of security leaving the doors open all hours of day and night.

Reminding them that I have provided them on numerous occasions, with the diary sheets they asked for, as evidence of his actions.

The response was that they have written to him several times, pointing out he is breaking his tenancy agreement with his actions. I asked why they haven't followed up, as we have still the same problem regardless of their correspondence with him.

To be told 'It's not that easy' !!!!!!!

On informing them I intended to fit a spring closer to the doors, and drop latched that would automatically lock on the door closing, I was threatened with action by the council if I did install these items as. Quote "We have provided adequate security for the property, no more will be permitted" Un-quote.

Informing them he was already leaving the doors open again, only days after the theft, they said we would have to start keeping diary sheets again.

Needless to say it was then I lost it.

I was then informed that a representative would call us on Monday. I won't hold my breath on that one.

I had informed the post man that the door would be permanently locked, and he would have to come around to the opposite side of the building (rear entrance) where the council had ( in their wisdom) fitted the door bells & tradesman 'security' entrance button.

Unfortunately this side of the building doesn't have a pavement or footpath, only a road leading up to the property.

Apparently Post Office 'H&S' regs won't allow the postman to deliver to any property that doesn't have a footpath or pavement leading to the property being delivered to. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You couldn't make this up!

second rant over.
 
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Great Britain ha! Nothing great about it anymore it's been brought to its knees. The cities and towns are now the worst places to live I will be leaving my place of birth (B"ham ) ASAP already looking at places to escape to after slowly watching my neighbourhood go down the pan . I hate this dog eat dog world I'm living in what happened to respect honour empathy manners to mention a few of the values that have now disappeared .To all those who served their country you have my greatest respect but as Lee said for what . I worked for HMS prison services for a number of years and have 1st hand knowledge of many prisons in and around the uk and as already been said it's like butlins holiday camp with many repeat offenders after a nice place to live and sleep with 3 meals a day. Would love to bring back my great grandfather and see is reaction to GB now . I'm really sorry Gregg about your mothers situation and hope your problems are sorted very soon .This island we all live on is not going to get any better but feel it's going to get a lot worse as time goes by I'm so glad I was born in the 1960s and have a few memories of what a decent place this used to be I fear for my great grandchildren have to stop here as a could go on and on .......................................................
I'm a brumy too john and I have seen it degrade into a cesspool , I now live in Devon and it's much the same as when I was growing up , respect still means something but more and more I see it changing , liberal fascists seem to be like a cancer and are spreading sadly to say
 
Thanks Alan I see you did the wise thing by moving to a better place . I can't wait to move sooner the better !!! Gregg your poor response from the council is of no surprise unfortunately the police are just as bad it's a shame that one lowlife is allowed to spoil the place that you live .my place of birth and my home for the last 49 years as now become unbearable and I have now totally given up so looking to move away to a better place if there is such a thing in Great Britain . Really hope someone somewhere with a small degree of common sense helps you soon as I have had problems myself with these lowlife and I know how frustrating it can be
 
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Thanks Alan I see you did the wise thing by moving to a better place . I can't wait to move sooner the better !!! Gregg your poor response from the council is of no surprise unfortunately the police are just as bad it's a shame that one lowlife is allowed to spoil the place that you live .my place of birth and my home for the last 49 years as now become unbearable and I have now totally given up so looking to move away to a better place if there is such a thing in Great Britain . Really hope someone somewhere with a small degree of common sense helps you soon as I have had problems myself with these lowlife and I know how frustrating it can be
 
bring back the stake is what I say, rock ferry is the same although there are many good people living here the majority seems to be low lives who have come from prison and dumped in bail hostels and druggies and drunks who by the way are issued disabled travel passes by the council and are dumped here by the social services not to mention the layabouts who don't want to work. I say find a nice little corner of Siberia or the arctic and put the lot of them there and leave them.

scott
 
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