discussion Hairspray chipping technique Q

[Guest]

I'm going to try the hairspray technique on my current build and have a quick question for anyone who's tried it.

Will it work fine on an Acryl layer - Hairspray - Acryl or does the base fare better if it's enamel as it does with salt weathering?

Thanks

 

[Ian M]

Hmmmm good question. I have not tried it over an Acrylic base. I would think that if you gave the base coat a coat of clear varnish you might be ok. Some Acrylics are a bit soft and might not survive the hacking and scraping of the hair spray method.

I would deffo try it on an old kit or bit of palsticard before attacking the real model.

Ian M

 

[Guest]

I've never tried the hairspray method so I'm interested to see how you get on with it. It does seem like it has more challenges than the salt method so it should be interesting to see what you think after you have had a go. As Ian says definately have a go on a test piece first.

 

[Guest]

Would the hairspray method work for brush painting? I don't have an airbrush (yet!) so the salt technique is out until I'm airbrush equipped, but was wondering if the hairspray would work if I painted over with a brush? Alternatively, what other weathering/rust techniques can be used when brush painting?

 

[Centurion3RTR]

I've just had a go at this technique straight on to "klear", the hairspray sent the klear white lol. But when the matt clear coat went on all was cool, the only thing i'd say is have a go on some scrap first to see what happens. The next time i do this i'm going to base coat the model enamel first then hairspray, then the acrylic and see how it turns out (should be better lol).

Have fun, John

 

[Ian M]

Hi John, Enamel-hairspray-Acrylic is the way to go. An Enamel as the show through colour is nice and hard and you will have to really give it some stick to go through it. so you should have no problems.

Andrew, you can do the hairspray trick using a brush but there are a few things you will need to take care with. The painting of the top colour has to be done very carefully and precise as to much dragging the paint around will remove the hairspray.

If you need to do chipping and do not yet have an airbrush, why not try the sponge effect. Paint the kit the top colour, then find a washing up sponge. Rip it in bits so you get nice uneven bits. Mix up some paint in the colour you want as the under coat. Dab a bit of sponge in the paint and then dab off the excess on a paper towel. Then checking the effect first on a sheet of paper, dab at the model where you want the chipping to be.

Another way is just to paint the undercoat in enamels then paint over that in Acrylics. Acrylic paints are much softer than Enamels and you will find that you can chip, scratch and scrape the acrylic off without damaging the enamel under it. A wet cotton bud works well on corners edges.

Try out a few techniques and see which one works best for you.

Ian M

 

[Guest]

Thanks Ian, useful tips there, will have a go with the sponge and acrylic over enamel...

 

[Centurion3RTR]

Thanks Ian, i've had an idea too. As you say "Enamel-hairspray-Acrylic", i'm going a little further and have a go at Enamel-hairspray-Acrylic, Enamel (matt clear coat)-hairspray-Acrylic that way we can have multiple colours. Something like a tank sold to different countries, rust, a green then what ever it was sprayed then.

Thanks again, have fun, John

 

[Guest]

I have tried this and it work brilliant, all I used was normal TAMIYA XF paints then sprayed a layer or two of hair spray then another layer of TAMIYA XF in a different colour let it dry and then got an old paint brush and put a load of water over the model then started hard brushing over it to chip away the paint. My model turned out just how I wanted it. I could always try and post a picture of the finished result.

The way I learnt how to do it was by going on to YOUTUBE and watching a few guys on there.

Lewis

 

[Ian M]

Lewis, you say you sprayed the hair spray on. Did you spray it directly out of the tin. I never could get a good result that way. I now always decant it into a jar and brush it on. As I think I mentioned hair spray and air brushes are a big no-no.

Please post the pictures you talk of it would be interesting to see your results.

Ian M

 

[Guest]

I used a squirty type hair spray and put it in my airbrush so it went on nice and smooth/even. Didn't have any problems cleaning my airbrush either I will try and post pics up tomorrow night for.

 

[Guest]

yes please post photos, would love to see the results

 

[Guest]

If you need to do chipping and do not yet have an airbrush, why not try the sponge effect. Paint the kit the top colour, then find a washing up sponge. Rip it in bits so you get nice uneven bits. Mix up some paint in the colour you want as the under coat. Dab a bit of sponge in the paint and then dab off the excess on a paper towel. Then checking the effect first on a sheet of paper, dab at the model where you want the chipping to be.

Ian would you mind if I added something to this: -

Base coat

Torn sponge to apply masking fluid or copydex latex adhesive (take off the excess so there's not a lot left)

Airbrush top coat including any postshading

rub off masking fluid with rubber gloved finger

hey presto, natural paint chips....

Hope this helps, although not exactly related to the hairspray technique

Stuart

 

[Guest]

If you have a look in Mays issue of "Model Military International", starting on page 16, Micheal Rinaldi builds and paints a Russian T62.

In the article he is using the hairspray technique as well. After priming the model, he basecoats it with Tamiya acrylics and then puts a coat of hairspray on to do the chipping effect.

Later on in the article he even uses Mig Oils with thinners and there seems to be no problems at all, so I dont see any issues with using hairspray straight on to acrylics. I may be wrong here, as I am just starting out painting models.

Hope this kinda helps.

Regards

Darren

 

[geegad]

Hello bud got the mags I know which page but which no mag completely looked over that article

 

[Guest]

Number 61 mate. I am giving it a go tomorrow on the Tamiya King Tiger I have just got. First model in about 20 years so its going to be a laugh to see what it comes out like.

Cheers Darren

 

[Guest]

Sorry for replying a little late but i couldn't find my camera charger. But anyway, as i said, here are the pictures.

With this model i have chipped alot away to get the effect i wanted but if you let the water soak and go over it lightly then it will leave nice little chips but here are some pictures to show you anyway.

Hope this helps chaps